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Covid and Steroids

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Moderate, high dose steroids linked to more severe COVID-19
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Preliminary data from the COVID-19 Global Rheumatology Alliance Provider Registry suggested that moderate- to high-dose steroid use is associated with a more severe COVID-19 disease course, with older age and comorbidities linked to an increased risk for hospitalization, according to a presenter at the virtual ACR State-of-the-Art Clinical Symposium.

“Remarkably, this entire effort started with a tweet — on March 11, Len Calabrese [DO, RJ Fasenmyer chair of clinical immunology at the Cleveland Clinic] recommended that rheumatology follow the lead of our inflammatory bowel disease colleagues who had started a similar registry just days before,” Jinoos Yazdany, MD, MPH, University of California, San Francisco, told attendees. “Over a period of a couple weeks, people around the world volunteered and got together a registry that we launched on March 24 — case counts have been rising steadily over the last few weeks thanks to everybody’s participation.”

The registry currently houses data on more than 1,400 cases reported by 288 organizations and more than 300 investigators, Yazdany said. Its two main objectives are to analyze the outcomes of patient s with rheumatic disease and COVID-19, and determine whether any inferences can be made regarding immunosuppressive and anti-malarial drugs.

The registry includes patients with inflammatory rheumatic disease who had been sick enough to receive a COVID-19 test and diagnosis. Considering that only some practices have systems for capturing all patients with COVID-19, Yazdany said that most of the cases included in the Global Rheumatology Alliance registry are “on the sicker end of the spectrum.”



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Preliminary data from the COVID-19 Global Rheumatology Alliance Provider Registry suggested that moderate- to high-dose steroid use is associated with a more severe COVID-19 disease course, with older age and comorbidities linked to an increased risk for hospitalization, according to Yazdany.
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That said, a soon-to-be-published analysis of 600 registry cases from 40 countries — mostly from North America and Europe — suggests that prednisone doses of more than 10 mg per day is associated with a higher risk for hospitalization, according to Yazdany. This effect remained even after adjusting for disease activity, she added. Older age and comorbidities also increased the risk for hospitalization.

In contrast, the researchers found fewer hospitalizations among patients treated with biologic or targeted synthetic DMARDs only. They did not find a significant association between antimalarials, such as hydroxychloroquine, either as monotherapy or in combination with another drug, and hospitalization. Further, patients treated with TNF inhibitors experienced fewer hospitalization in adjusted models.

“When we looked more carefully at the biologic, or targeted synthetic DMARD category, we were really only powered to look, drug-by-drug at TNF users, which was more than half of the people in that category,” Yazdany said. “We are not yet powered to look at other drug categories, but hopefully as the registry grows, we will be able to do this type of analysis for other specific drugs.”

Still, despite limitations in the data, which include the potential for residual confounding and selection bias, the registry’s timeliness has allowed the rheumatology community to “rapidly dispel” misinformation regarding the preventive benefits of hydroxychloroquine, according to Yazdany.

“Especially things like the notion that patients with lupus are not getting COVID-19,” she said. “We know from these data that is not true.”

It has also given rheumatologists the information necessary to reassure patients that most people with rheumatic diseases who catch COVID-19 are recovering, even in this more severe cohort of patients, she added.

“Larger sample sizes will allow us to study specific disease, drug and comorbidity risk factors,” Yazdany said. “I encourage everyone to continue to enter cases so that our community can learn from every patient, and get data out there quickly, during the pandemic.” – by Jason Laday

Reference:

Yazdany, J. COVID-19 epidemiology, transmission and insights from global registry data. Presented at: American College of Rheumatology State-of-the-Art Clinical Symposium. May 16-17, 2020 (virtual meeting).

Disclosures: Yazdany reports research support from NIH/NIAMS, CDC and the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality, as well as consulting fees from Astra Zeneca and Eli Lilly.
 
There talking anti inflammatory steroids. Not anabolics. Ive had covid and was on test,tren,mast and tbol if you guys remember and was fine.
 
there is actually corollation with low vitamin d which anabolic orals can do..as well as other reports on anabolics
just because u were fine doesn't equate to all bro
 
 
I am glad you came up with this info G, I definitely need to jack up the vitamin D. Thanks
 
My undersrtanding is anabolic steroids would help. Atleast in the oxygen part in cells. No but i have known atleast 6 people to test positive and not one was fighting for there life. Strange.
 
@Inhuman2019 6 is very few as nobody ever said most or alot fight for their lives. Even those who live some however have permanent lung damage, nuro disorders, strokes kids with Kawasaki like syndrome and more
 
@GRIM what im saying is i dont know anyone thats happened to. Everyone i know that had its fine. So is it media produced hysteria. If its so prevalant i should know stleast one personally. Do you. Does anyone here know someone personally that covid really messed up? Im not daying it isnt happening im just saying its wierd i dont know any or the 2000+ facebook friends i have. Like is this for real?
 
@Inhuman2019 I know many actually who had strokes from it, others who died
hardly media hysteria
 
@Inhuman2019 there have been others on EG who have as well
certain areas of country hardly hit, others hit hard
 
@GRIM The blood clotting in the lungs seems like it would take anyone out that catches it but everyone reacts different or to a different degree of seriousness due to the covid virus.
I have heard of one person helping another get well and they did recover but the caretaker/family member caught it and passed away, they just couldn't over come it.
 
@Thor yup its fd up, honestly its more severe because it's 'new' imo
but will it stay at where it is, mostly vanish or mutate to a much more dangerous disease we just don't know yet well not 'we' the professionals 😛

The clots are a huge thing most don't even realize it causes, Clots can lose limbs it cost the one actor his leg, throw strokes and more beyond just death
 
@GRIM Our area seemed like it hardly slowed down much but we did get hit with the virus and I do know people that started working from home, if the type of work they did allowed for it. The gyms were wide open before other areas of the country opened their doors or were barely up and running again. I was never tested even though I became real sick and just stayed in bed most of the time.
 
@GRIM Yea brother, this is one bad ass virus for some people, it is crazy all the different things/effects it has on people, like you said similar to Kawasaki disease in kids, the blood clots and other symptoms in adults....they probably don't know all the bodily damage it actually does yet. Lets hope it doesn't mutate G, since it is already bad enough.
 
@Thor i do agree that some overly panic over it though, man some people i know you'd swear an abomb went off!
 
Yea I think they have those every where lol. I had to tell my son to just relax and take it in stride, he was one that wondered if it was going to run ramp-id across America wiping everyone out lol.
 
Nice, stay healthy R2 brother. My wife and I have discussed the vitamin D issue, well health in general and sun light.
Everyone works so much and stays so busy indoors and our electronics/computers are one reason that no one gets enough sun light anymore and it seems like people are less healthy because of it.
 

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