Cycle help

[Andrew0409]

So here are my stats. I'm about 89kg , or just under 200lbs no more than 12%bf. 10% +-1 if I had to guess. I fight in the 80kg weight class. I won't be taking a fight until the beginning of next year. So this is the first time in a long time where I can just run anything, at any dose and just focus on getting a big as possible for fun without worrying about my weight or stamina. And yes, I CAN get much bigger without gear, but i'm not a new guy who can't get over 200 natty and use gear without training and dieting right. I'm choosing to be my weight but now I want to have some fun and get big.

I was thinking about trying a bombs for my first time and finally running some tren again. So what i'm thinking this.
Test cyp 900mg ew entire time
Adrol 50mg ed 1-4 weeks
Tren A 100mg ed 1-4 weeks

So I want to blast hard with Tren and drol but continue without running either compounds which are harsh for me after. I'm not sure what to do. I have test, eq, var, winny, and primo.

Should I do
Test cyp 900mg entire time
Primo 600mg ew 5-16 week (Start after my last pin of tren a so start at beginning of week 5)
Var 100mg ed 6-16 week (give my liver a break of a week after drol so start at beginning of week 6)

Or
Change the Primo for EQ at 900mg or add both EQ and Primo?

 

[GRIM]

eq ud need to start off the bat
id also change the test e for test prop or another short acting if youre doing tren ace and def bring the test to tren ratio even, or as many do less test than tren

 

[Andrew0409]

eq ud need to start off the bat

Aww true, I actually have bold cyp, sorry I didn't make that clear. I have both Boldenone Undecylenate and cyp.

 

[Andrew0409]

eq ud need to start off the bat
id also change the test e for test prop or another short acting if youre doing tren ace and def bring the test to tren ratio even, or as many do less test than tren

I hate prop. I don't have a source that I trust and used before to know how bad the pip is. I can drop the test down to 800mg ew but I don't think 100mg will be much of a difference as i'm only doing tren ace for 4 weeks.? But I'm sticking with my pharam test cyp i get here for 1.50$ an amp

 

[tkasch30]

Just my opinion, fuck the orals. Anavar is dam near useless, waste of money, forget drol it produces no lasting results and just makes you feel like shit, just like most orals. You test & tren for 8 -10 wks.

 

[Andrew0409]

Just my opinion, fuck the orals. Anavar is dam near useless, waste of money, forget drol it produces no lasting results and just makes you feel like shit, just like most orals. You test & tren for 8 -10 wks.

I actually love var at 100mg. 3-4 weeks of dbol my doctor tells me my liver profiles are off. 12 weeks of var at 100mg I'm still ok. It's works really well in building lean muscle and vascular look in the long run at a high mg. And also the strength gains are great. My favorite oral, if you run it at at higher doses.

I can't take the sides of tren long term. I rather hit it hard with ace and leave it at that.


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[Andrew0409]

I think I will just run eq or primo or both from the very beginning instead of starting it in week 5. It seems to make more sense. What do you guys think?


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[TSizemore]

I'd go ahead with the Eq from the beginning. I would agree with the Anavar at higher doses, they're sustainable gains. Drol gains don't last.

It doesn't matter what cycle you do....Primo is a great side dish!

If your goal is lean gains then, Test, Eq, and Var is a good combo.

 

[Andrew0409]

I'd go ahead with the Eq from the beginning. I would agree with the Anavar at higher doses, they're sustainable gains. Drol gains don't last.

It doesn't matter what cycle you do....Primo is a great side dish!

If your goal is lean gains then, Test, Eq, and Var is a good combo.

I'm aware I won't keep 100% of adrols gains and it's not sustainable. I guess I just want to try it since it's something I see a lot of guys run and get huge on. I don't have many opportunities to run something like that as a fighter. This is probably the last time I will touch adrol or tren again in a very very long time. But I'm getting a lot of feedback to not run it from you guys. So I'm not sure about it. It's just something I was interested in trying.

I know some guys either love or hate adrol. There's not many in between guys in seems. Either you hate it or you love it kind of thing.


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[TSizemore]

Yea, it is one of those black/white things with Drol. But, honestly, if you really want to try it, then go ahead. You don't have an "Imminent" goal that you'd be sacrificing. The very thing that makes us here worthy to be asked advice from is the fact that we have all tried and tested different combinations and compounds to see what works for us and what doesn't. Same applies to you. I don't get any kind of "reckless" vibe at all from you, quite the opposite. So, I say, go for it. You might see some outstanding gains.....take advantage of that. See how long they last, how much it took to see them, how much you ate to support them, etc.

I don't think anyone here is a Drol hater, they just feel, for themselves, they prefer other "tools".

Enjoy the ride....just make sure you listen to your body. (That part was my obligatory Admin public service announcement. 😉 )

 

[Andrew0409]

So the last question is, bold cyp or primo? and if I should run it from the very beginning instead of starting after my last shot of tren with drol.

 

[TSizemore]

I'm all about the Primo.....from the beginning.

 

[Andrew0409]

I'm all about the Primo.....from the beginning.

Thanks. I was thinking the same. Primo it is.


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[suraonyx23]

Thanks. I was thinking the same. Primo it is.


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I just started my first Primo run yesterday. I'll be using;
Sust 375mg wk
Mast E 600mg wk
Primo E 450mg wk
Tbol 75mgs day
Drol 50mg day

Now I'll be upping my Primo dose too 600mg in a couple weeks. I ordered some Primo E raws and will dose it at 150/175. Really looking forward to seeing how I respond to it cuz I respond really well to Mast E and EQ.

 

[Andrew0409]

I just started my first Primo run yesterday. I'll be using;
Sust 375mg wk
Mast E 600mg wk
Primo E 450mg wk
Tbol 75mgs day
Drol 50mg day

Now I'll be upping my Primo dose too 600mg in a couple weeks. I ordered some Primo E raws and will dose it at 150/175. Really looking forward to seeing how I respond to it cuz I respond really well to Mast E and EQ.

How do you feel about drol?


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[Jinko]

I don't take orals anymore, but when I did Drol was #1.

 

[tkasch30]

I don't take orals anymore, but when I did Drol was #1.

Smart man... No orals. None for me either

 

[Bama]

I hate prop. I don't have a source that I trust and used before to know how bad the pip is. I can drop the test down to 800mg ew but I don't think 100mg will be much of a difference as i'm only doing tren ace for 4 weeks.? But I'm sticking with my pharam test cyp i get here for 1.50$ an amp

There is a source here Olympia Solutions, he has "NP PIP PROP" I have used it, and was amazed because I usually can not run prop.

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[Andrew0409]

There is a source here Olympia Solutions, he has "NP PIP PROP" I have used it, and was amazed because I usually can not run prop.

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Does he ship internationally? That's been my problem. I have great sources in the US. Just non international ones I trust right now. If I ask if their prop hurt, I'm sure most of them will say no to just sell it.


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[Andrew0409]

There is a source here Olympia Solutions, he has "NP PIP PROP" I have used it, and was amazed because I usually can not run prop.

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Does he ship internationally? That's been my problem. I have great sources in the US. Just non international ones I trust right now. If I ask if their prop hurt, I'm sure most of them will say no to just sell it.


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