DIM

[Hanzo]

.... you asked me to provide evidence of estrogen control via usage of DIM and I did. Interesting enough, there is NO clinical research on how male steroid users control estrogen as the only studies were done on women. WTF are you thinking? All ai's and SERM's were developed for women, not men. DIM does have research supporting estrogen control in men (it also helps good estrogen that we need). That's not to say it's the strongest. Aromasin did suppress up to 84%, the highest of all ai's. On women.

The protocols for men were developed as a result of what worked for women. As a 30 year cycler (haha) you should know damn well the medical community shuns "rec steroid usage", so the real world information for men is sparse. There are 3 real world steroid cycles that were performed under strict lab conditions, using real world doses. 1 was with 600MG/week Test E for 20 weeks, one with 600mg/week Nandrolone for 16 weeks and 1 with 100mg/ed with Anadrol for 12 weeks.But you knew that. <sarc off>

If you want to know the results have your 6 year old look it up for you. It's very informative.

 

[F.I.S.T.]

Re: fist ....

That is really interesting nerd shit man.Strict lab conditions huh??LMFAO.All the lab any real steroid user needs is the firsthand experiences from cycling boy,not what some nerd in a lab says "should" work thats first off.

Secondly,You've provided no data proving anything kid.You posted links on dim and cancer cell studies.LMFAO.None done on dim controlling steroid induced estrogen.

Thirdly,you're first reply was that you cant believe no one has heard of dim or taking it?? This after I,and another member have stated that ALL of their symptoms were fixed with adex! Then you went on to state further "YOU WONT KNOW WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU UNTIL YOU TRY IT" WTF wold anyone want to try something for a problem thats already fixed?? Again,this shows your ignorance.You dont seek a cure for a nonexistent problem boy.

Now lastly,no one,I mean no one is gonna have problems with taking .05mg of adex EOD! So stating what compounds were created for and what potential negative side effects one could get is again showing your ignorance to the subject.

Keep reading books boy.I'll keep pounding away in the gym and cycling and experiencing no health issues to this day at almost 60.Hopefully you'll make it to my age kid.

 

[Hanzo]

60? I see, so you're just a bitter, twisted old man who ceased learning long ago. I would feel sorry for you but your inane bluster and daft windbaggery prevents it.

 

[Hanzo]

Yes, I posted 1 from pubmed on DIM/estrogen control and 1 on DIM as an ai. You poor old dementia addled old fool. Believe it or not, the NIH just might know more than a used up old doufus.

Go back and reread your thread. Poor old fool.

 

[F.I.S.T.]

60? I see, so you're just a bitter, twisted old man who ceased learning long ago. I would feel sorry for you but your inane bluster and daft windbaggery prevents it.

Did you just say............."INANE BLUSTER AND DAFT WINDBAGGERY"?? LMFAO.

NERD!!!!!

 

[F.I.S.T.]

Yes, I posted 1 from pubmed on DIM/estrogen control and 1 on DIM as an ai. You poor old dementia addled old fool. Believe it or not, the NIH just might know more than a used up old doufus.

Go back and reread your thread. Poor old fool.

I dont have to,im still stuck on you saying "YOU WONT KNOW WHAT WORKS BEST UNTIL YOU TRY IT" for a problem that doesnt exist!! Which was your first reply about not needing to take it.LMFAO.

 

[Hanzo]

Here you go .... fist youse thi stooopiest dum jakasz I evar did c. Better?

 

[Hanzo]

I dont have to,im still stuck on you saying "YOU WONT KNOW WHAT WORKS BEST UNTIL YOU TRY IT" for a problem that doesnt exist!! Which was your first reply about not needing to take it.LMFAO.

Why do you feel the need to make a lame attempt at maligning those who seek a higher education? Because you are a cretin and a philistine.

Heh heh. "I don't have to" .... be proven wrong just because I am. 'Nuff said.

Why don't you just drop it. I am. You can't live with yourself unless you have the last word, even if it is a lie, as usual.

Go ahead perfesser, prove me right. Thanks in advance.

 

[F.I.S.T.]

I will always have the last word kid.But only when im right.

Keep reading books and telling people to try something for problems they DONT have boy.LMFAO.

Was that..........."INANE BLUSTER AND DAFT WINDBAGGERY" again?? LMFAO

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[Hanzo]

Tsk.Tsk.Tsk. The sign of a declining mind. Funny how you keep referring to me as "boy". You mean that racially, you are pathetic. Truly pathetic.

Boy.LMFAO.Boy.LMFAO.Boy.LMFAO.Boy.

yawn .... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

BETTER GO GIVE MOMMY HER LAPTOP BACK NOW JUNIOR.

 

[mig139]

Ok guys, this is getting out of hand.... Is fun to poke at each other, just stop making things personal...

 

[Hanzo]

Ok guys, this is getting out of hand.... Is fun to poke at each other, just stop making things personal...

I never did take it there until he did brother.

 

[GRIM]

I take dim. Nothing like a natty product to keep e in check at all times...

 

[Hanzo]

I take dim. Nothing like a natty product to keep e in check at all times...

I agree and it doesn't overkill.

 

[mig139]

You guys have a link to a supplier... Sounds interesting

 

[GRIM]

You guys have a link to a supplier... Sounds interesting

I just buy mine on amazon

 

[GRIM]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000GFPCZ2/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1440654234&sr=8-2&rps=1&keywords=dim&pi=SY200_QL40&dpPl=1&dpID=41Q6yO3p2OL&ref=plSrch

 

[Amozoc]

And you know that you have to take DIM along with an another compound in order to work good ? Both have synergy

 

[GRIM]

I take dim alone while off, combined while on

 

[Hanzo]

And you know that you have to take DIM along with an another compound in order to work good ? Both have synergy

I hope you're noit speaking of I3C. That's been disproven. DIM is 2x as strong as I3C.
DIM helps balance, normalize and improve estrogen metabolism in men and women. It is oil soluble and best taken with food or flax oil.

Di-Indolyl Methane (DIM) is the direct metabolite of I3C (Indole-3-Carbinol) and twice as strong. DIM has been shown in clinical studies to promote healthier estrogen metabolism in both men and women.

Western women generally have excessive estradiol and estrone levels, but deficient estriol levels. This causes a variety of female medical problems. DIM helps reverse this situation.

Men over 50 literally have higher estradiol and estrone levels than their postmenopausal wives. This condition causes many unhealthful effects, especially prostate illness and gynecomastia. DIM helps normalize these estrogen levels.