Got a hold of a TD product Ultra Hard. Not sure but think Primordal Perf had an oral version of this time back. Going to add it in for upcoming cut cycle. Anyone ever use it before? I assume it with help with estro and have a good hardening effect given its dht nature. In the past I have used mast or sten for cut or lean gain. I am planning Tren and Test fast esters and most likely T3. May also include Ipam/Cjc no dac mix.