gyno help

[bhcolex50x]

ok guys running test e tren e var & win right now and got some solid lumps going, been running 20mg nolva per day and .5mg caber 2x per week, it has reduced some but not much but at least its not getting worse. got letro and prami on the way. how would you dose letro its been 3+ years since I've needed it and would you continue caber/prami while on letro or just let letro do its thing? got another week & half of test and tren and 3.5 weeks of var and win. also 1 week into hcg and got 3 more weeks of that. torem is my pct and I'm all set on dosage for that, used it last time and it worked great

 

[TSizemore]

Double the Nolva for now....take an evening dose. As long as the gyno is not getting worse then stick with your protocol (except the doubled Nolva). Keep the other stuff on hand, just in case.

 

[bigdude]

T is right....
And if that don't work,which it should, u may have prolactin issues from the tren
Just a theory

 

[tunaman7]

Run the Prami before you run the Letro. Letro is pretty harsh and you have to be real careful with estrogen rebound if you come of Letro too quickly. Double your Nova...then try the Prami...and Letro as a last resort. What say you brothers?

 

[Hanzo]

Double the Nolva for now....take an evening dose. As long as the gyno is not getting worse then stick with your protocol (except the doubled Nolva). Keep the other stuff on hand, just in case.

Definitely agree here. Use Letro as a last resort. It will work but like Tuna also said, very harsh. You should be dosing the caber e3d (established protocol), not 2x/week. Might not sound like a big deal, but over the course of an entire cycle you're missing some caber doses you should have taken. Let's say you're on a 12 week cycle, 2x/week is 24 doses, e3d would be 29 doses, might make a difference.

 

[JM750]

I dont get it? Either all the test I have is bunk (which I know its not) or I am just not prone to gyno.
I run very little of anastrozole, and never get lumps, sore nips or anything.
Not that I want it, but why? I'm 50 yrs old, not sure if that has anything to do with it.

 

[Hanzo]

I dont get it? Either all the test I have is bunk (which I know its not) or I am just not prone to gyno.
I run very little of anastrozole, and never get lumps, sore nips or anything.
Not that I want it, but why? I'm 50 yrs old, not sure if that has anything to do with it.

I'm the same way bro. Ran 1.5-2 gm's Test before and never had to go over 12.5mg's Exemestane/ed, usually never go over 12.5mg's/eod, or even e3d anymore.

We're just real men!! YEAH!! 😛

 

[misterB]

I dont get it? Either all the test I have is bunk (which I know its not) or I am just not prone to gyno.
I run very little of anastrozole, and never get lumps, sore nips or anything.
Not that I want it, but why? I'm 50 yrs old, not sure if that has anything to do with it.

several factors here, Dose of Test used, body fat ( relative to Aromatese enzymes available) use of AI from start

we know you're lean, use doses in reasonable levels for and use AI standard from day 1.. we dont know the OP's protocol

 

[bhcolex50x]

y'all are awesome guys, i think from here on out i'm going to start ai from day one i usually don't start till a few weeks in, b4 signs really start but still might make a difference, as well as dosing e3d instead of twice a week. will up the nolva, and run caber till it runs out and then I'm going to try prami. letro last resort

 

[TSizemore]

NOLVADEX Will do nothing to reverse.


@ OP this is why
Research. .. Doing your homework and always have an AI on hand, if you don't know what that is. You shouldn't be using steroids. Read. . Learn the difference between SERM and AI's (VERY IMPORTANT)

Letro WILL work for gyno reversal BUT it needs to be ran right. And I'm telling you now. . Kiss your sex drive good bye (yup... Out the fucking Window limpy)
Temporary limp dick or permanent man titts.. Hmmmm

I'd suggest get reading junior ; )

Good day

THIS MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO YOU BY JOKER LAB AN IRISH INC COMPANY

Not true....works for me. As a matter of fact, taking it now and watching the lump shrink.

 

[Wacker]

Bad practice in my eyes.
And that won't work on everyone. An
AI is what he should of been running. (From the beginning, prevention is the key)
Me personally, I would never rely on nolv. For gyno reversal.
My .02

If it works for you. . More power to you hommie.
This gentleman should of been running adex or arom. From jump Street.

From the beginning is key!! ARIMIDEX does not do shit for me I use 10mg nolva ed And 12.5mg's Exemestane/eod or e3d depending on what I'm pinning. But always from the start of the first pin...never after a problem. Nolva is actually mild on your lipids so if used for prevention it's a good option.

 

[krustus]

several factors here, Dose of Test used, body fat ( relative to Aromatese enzymes available) use of AI from start
we know you're lean, use doses in reasonable levels for and use AI standard from day 1.. we dont know the OP's protocol

i agree mister b ...good post

Bad practice in my eyes.
And that won't work on everyone. An
AI is what he should of been running. (From the beginning, prevention is the key)
Me personally, I would never rely on nolv. For gyno reversal.
My .02

If it works for you. . More power to you hommie.
This gentleman should of been running adex or arom. From jump Street.

once again joker with some rock solid advice...

 

[TSizemore]

Bad practice in my eyes.
And that won't work on everyone. An
AI is what he should of been running. (From the beginning, prevention is the key)
Me personally, I would never rely on nolv. For gyno reversal.
My .02

If it works for you. . More power to you hommie.
This gentleman should of been running adex or arom. From jump Street.

You'll get no argument from me there.....absolutely!

 

[morrey]

You need an AI my man

 

[bhcolex50x]

So from what your saying adex and aromiasin are stronger than nolvadex against gyno? I switched to nolva this time around bec adex wasn't strong enough and asin crashed my estrogen completely made
Me feel like shit

 

[TSizemore]

So from what your saying adex and aromiasin are stronger than nolvadex against gyno? I switched to nolva this time around bec adex wasn't strong enough and asin crashed my estrogen completely made
Me feel like shit

It's not that Asin or Adex is stronger (which they are), It's that they do a completely different job then Nolva. I always run Aromasin and Nolva together for gyno flare ups, and start all my cycles out with Nolva.

Aromasin and Adex stop the body from producing estrogen, Nolva stops the body from utilizing estrogen. This would be why your estro crashed. Use a lower dose of Asin then what you did before, find your sweet spot with it.

 

[Hanzo]

So from what your saying adex and aromiasin are stronger than nolvadex against gyno? I switched to nolva this time around bec adex wasn't strong enough and asin crashed my estrogen completely made
Me feel like shit

What was you Aromasin dose? Did you think of lowering it or maybe going eod, etc? I ask because Aromasin, IMO, is the best ai, hands down.

 

[Hanzo]

It's not that Asin or Adex is stronger (which they are), It's that they do a completely different job then Nolva. I always run Aromasin and Nolva together for gyno flare ups, and start all my cycles out with Nolva.

Aromasin and Adex stop the body from producing estrogen, Nolva stops the body from utilizing estrogen. This would be why your estro crashed. Use a lower dose of Asin then what you did before, find your sweet spot with it.

However, Asin is also a suicide inhibitor, being a Type1 ai. One drawback to consider about Nolva on cycle is that it MIGHT cause progesterone receptors to become more sensitive. This means that while using progestins such as Deca or Tren, you may become more sensitive to progestin related gyno . Nolva dosen't lower estro levels in the blood, it blocks it from binding to receptors (like TS said). Aromasin has also been shown to help bone density (so does Nolva), a real plus when dealing with these estrogen blocking drugs, be they AI's or SERM's. Yeah, I do like my Aromasin.

I do agree with what TS is posting above, just wanted to add a few more points.