How often do you inject long ester?

[Bama]

I am writing this post to ask you guys how often do you inject long esters? For example test c: I usually inject 1 every 5 days and also with Deca. I have heard of people injecting long esters EOD, E2D, to keep blood levels up. What do you think in this subject?

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[Andrew0409]

Honestly, I don't think it matters all that much. I inject long esters usually all on one day, usually monday and if it's too much for one day, maybe just tuesday or wednesday. And repeat every week. Seeing how most cyp is usually given once a week from a endo doc, I don't see it making a huge impact if you don't space out your injections. That's kind of the point of long esters, or else I would be using prop ed/eod.

 

[Bama]

Honestly, I don't think it matters all that much. I inject long esters usually all on one day, usually monday and if it's too much for one day, maybe just tuesday or wednesday. And repeat every week. Seeing how most cyp is usually given once a week from a endo doc, I don't see it making a huge impact if you don't space out your injections. That's kind of the point of long esters, or else I would be using prop ed/eod.

Yes, this is the way I also dose, but I have heard of people dosing long esters just like short esters, and,I am wondering is there any significant value in this. Alot of people think more is better but it's actually not. Right?

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[R2D2]

i'm doing test e and deca once every 5 days right now, seems to be working fine. could probably get away with pinning the deca less often than that

 

[Andrew0409]

Yes, this is the way I also dose, but I have heard of people dosing long esters just like short esters, and,I am wondering is there any significant value in this. Alot of people think more is better but it's actually not. Right?

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maybe someone can chime in, I do believe yes, if you really care about maintaining a really even level of test or whatever youre running levels it works. But the spikes and slight drops in the level in your blood is not significant enough for me to care and I don't really believe it's worth all the trouble. It isn't like you are not getting all 200mg minus the ester chain attached to it if you inject 200mg. There will be some elevations and drop offs, but your body naturally does this without putting AAS in your body. You get a spike in test in the am, thats why you get morning wood, so I don't see it being a big deal at all. And if youre on top of your AIs, estrogen spikes should be within normal range.

 

[Jinko]

If I'm cruising I inject every 5th day (125-250mg of test).

Cycling something like Monday and Thursday or Tuesday and Friday.

 

[misterB]

Half of the half life , so for test c/ e I inject every 3 1/2 days , Monday morning / Friday night

 

[kingofclowns]

E3.5D. Simple and often enough.

 

[the prototype]

I inject Test E or C once a week on cruise and twice to three times a week on a blast, depending on what I'm stacking it with.

 

[buffalohead]

Every 5 days on TRT. Usually twice a week if using more.

 

[Hanzo]

Good half life info from basskiller:

Active Half-life of Steroids and Esters

 

[Hanzo]

Remember, if you go less than 7 days with Enanthate you will have saturation quickly. There's really no need to go less than 7 for the length of your cycle, IMO. Unless you're running such a large dose you want to break it up into smaller doses/pin.

 

[RebelMachinist]

Can you elaborate on what you mean by saturation? I'm taking that as something undesirable? I do enanthate on Monday and Thursday always have.

 

[buffalohead]

Remember, if you go less than 7 days with Enanthate you will have saturation quickly. There's really no need to go less than 7 for the length of your cycle, IMO. Unless you're running such a large dose you want to break it up into smaller doses/pin.

Hanzo, are you suggesting that if you want to do, say, 500mg of whatever long estered compound, one injection per week of 500mg is better than 250mg twice a week? Not arguing, legitimately curious.

 

[Andrew0409]

Hanzo, are you suggesting that if you want to do, say, 500mg of whatever long estered compound, one injection per week of 500mg is better than 250mg twice a week? Not arguing, legitimately curious.

I would agree anything less then 500mg is not really worth the trouble breaking up the doses. I've injected everything all in one day before of multiple compounds and I've injected once a day splitting it up. I really don't notice a difference. Maybe some people are more sensitive to estrogen spikes when test spikes. But if you're on top of your AI it's really shouldn't spike like crazy. Of course it's probably better to multi dose long esters. But in the end, I don't think it's a huge deal.


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[lith56bigguy]

Twice a week, as tough I dont feel necessary to balance quantity.

For instance right now I am running 850 sust, 400 tren e weekly split into two pins. Works for me

 

[Hanzo]

Can you elaborate on what you mean by saturation? I'm taking that as something undesirable? I do enanthate on Monday and Thursday always have.

Oh no, saturation is very desirable. Saturation occurs when the esters have gone through half-life stage and you continue pinning. This is the level you should desire to maintain and with longer esters, anything above PP or P, it's very easy to maintain after you reach saturation because of the longer half-life.
Therefore, with a half-life of 10 days (you will remain in saturation longer), you can achieve, and keep, those levels pinning e/7d because of saturation. Your levels won't drop after 5 days, as seems to be prevalent opinion in some circles when considering the enanthate ester. Somewhere here I did the math for how long (in weeks) before return to baseline using, I think it was, 250mg's Test E. You'd be surprised how long the compound lingers, after saturation. Dr.Scalley (the inventor of PCT) has written extensively on this subject. I'll try to dig some of his stuff up.

 

[Hanzo]

Hanzo, are you suggesting that if you want to do, say, 500mg of whatever long estered compound, one injection per week of 500mg is better than 250mg twice a week? Not arguing, legitimately curious.

What do you mean by better? Pinning, for instance, enanthate 1x/week will achieve the same level of saturation as pinning enanthate 2x/week, in the same length of time. Exact same results, just one method has less pins over the course of cycle. Remember, saturation starts with your 1st pin, half-life does the rest.

*You can't make enanthate (or any ester) saturate quicker by pinning multiple times. What matters is you must pin in time to make the half-life.

 

[Hanzo]

Twice a week, as tough I dont feel necessary to balance quantity.

For instance right now I am running 850 sust, 400 tren e weekly split into two pins. Works for me

Now here is a reason to break up pins, you don't want to pin the quantity at one time because of volume.