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IGF

I don't believe anyone knows 100 percent..I don't use anything that's been reconed longer than two weeks though.
 
I'm with joebad, I never recon more then I can pin in two weeks. I have heard tale of folks lasting 30 days, but I've seen no blood work analysis that supports the efficacy at that time frame.
 
Are we talking IGF 1 or IGF lr3 here?

IGF1 will come recontituted and only last 30days but the pontency will not be the same at day 30.
Igf lr3 can last months in acetic acid? Just freeze your prefilled syringes.
 
IGF comes reconstructed in solution. You can use acidic acid to synthesize and that can last much more than we think.
That's what pros do with Increlex, potency won't loss that way.
 
Kai1432 said:
IGF comes reconstructed in solution. You can use acidic acid to synthesize and that can last much more than we think.
That's what pros do with Increlex, potency won't loss that way.
Thanks Kai.
I also know that increlex is a little more sensitive to temperature changes vs IGF lr3. Does the acetic acid help with this?
 
Room temperature in any matter is fine, but hot - cold climate variation does react.
Acetic acid is way more stable to hold the potency in long manner. You can reconstruct the IGF with AA and then refrigerate it. It'll be fine.
 
I'm thinking to retailing the Increlex in 1 and 2mg pre constructed vails.
Let me know how that sounds
 
Kai1432 said:
I'm thinking to retailing the Increlex in 1 and 2mg pre constructed vails.
Let me know how that sounds
What would the cost be? Heard the stuff was quite pricey.
We might have a few members interested.
 
Why would people want igf-1 if lr3 is 'better' ? And by better, I'm talking potency(atleast that's what I read). Or is their something straight igf-1 does that lr3 doesn't?


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Kai1432 said:
$90 to $100 per mg I think

Kia is that a type error? Or is it generic maybe, Increlex was just put into production state side about a year ago if I recall 24hr was looking at 4000-5000 for 2 mg or more. If it's not a type error you can add me on list most likely as well.
 
blasson said:
Why would people want igf-1 if lr3 is 'better' ? And by better, I'm talking potency(atleast that's what I read). Or is their something straight igf-1 does that lr3 doesn't?


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There a little different, the igf lr3 is long lasting, Igf fast acting
 
tkasch30 said:
There a little different, the igf lr3 is long lasting, Igf fast acting

wouldnt the DES be the go to then? And what I read is 20x more potent than regular igf-1


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I'm by no means trying to say it's useless due to the others out there. Just trying to figure out what makes people want it over the other options that I have read are "better" that do the same thing.


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blasson said:
Why would people want igf-1 if lr3 is 'better' ? And by better, I'm talking potency(atleast that's what I read). Or is their something straight igf-1 does that lr3 doesn't?


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IGF is better for by lateral site injections as it starts attaching to cells as soon as it's injected where IGF lr3 circulates through the body so acts longer.
 
Wacker said:
Kia is that a type error? Or is it generic maybe, Increlex was just put into production state side about a year ago if I recall 24hr was looking at 4000-5000 for 2 mg or more. If it's not a type error you can add me on list most likely as well.

No its not a typing error. Increlex comes in 40mg/4ml vails and comes in near the price you mentioned.
It's really hard to get hands on, but I can and will try my best to get it for all you brothers out their.
 
Any IGF1 is absorbed into the systemic circulation through local capillary vessels in the injected site. This means that it'll have more chances to interact with local receptors at the injected site to some degree, but eventually and quite efficiently will end into the general circulations. Here comes to play the life time of the product and its affinity to the receptors. IGF1-lr3 has a very long half life of more then 20 hours, along with high affinity to the receptors, this means that it may carry some local effect but most of the injected dosage will find it's way to the systemic circulation and have an autocrine effect, meaning it'll interact with receptors all over target tissues in the body (actually all tissues but the brain and the eyes has IGF1 receptors). IGF1 like increlex will simply have a shorter life time then the lr3 version, so its effect is more limited but still similar to the lr3 version, just requires more frequent injections. The IGF1-DES has an extremely high affinity to the receptors and a very short half life, this means that most or at least major portion of the injected dosage will end in interacting with local receptors at the injected tissue, hence known to have some paracrine local effect in the injected tissue
 

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