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Rich Piana on igf-1 and insulin

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Kinda makes you wonder about some of the peps people are talking now....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l11YoTVA4Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
 
I know it! Hes been one of my favs for awhile just don't know why he hasnt gotten a bigger name in BB'ing. Watch some of his work out videos he is a beast for sure.
 
I've heard some claims that real IGF is patented owned by some pharma company in another country ect, so getting real chit is almost out of the question. Kinda like fallinstatin costing something like 5 grand for a real weeks worth dose. If you watch the video, he discusses it abit.
 
My question is this....what's in the vial? While IGF1-lr3 is prolly patented this doesn't mean there can't be a million knock offs. So no it's not "real" IGF but it is IGF. If I recall correctly there are no or weren't any legal Viagra generics, yet there was a ton of knock offs on the market....and they made your dick plenty hard lol.

Would love to here some comments since I'm gonna give IGF another run soon.
 
flyingfox said:
My question is this....what's in the vial? While IGF1-lr3 is prolly patented this doesn't mean there can't be a million knock offs. So no it's not "real" IGF but it is IGF. If I recall correctly there are no or weren't any legal Viagra generics, yet there was a ton of knock offs on the market....and they made your dick plenty hard lol.

Would love to here some comments since I'm gonna give IGF another run soon.
makes sense..
 
Just gotta love how rich is just such a no bullshit down to earth kind of guy
 
flyingfox said:
My question is this....what's in the vial? While IGF1-lr3 is prolly patented this doesn't mean there can't be a million knock offs. So no it's not "real" IGF but it is IGF. If I recall correctly there are no or weren't any legal Viagra generics, yet there was a ton of knock offs on the market....and they made your dick plenty hard lol.

Would love to here some comments since I'm gonna give IGF another run soon.

This is a good question. It stands to reason that someone has reverse engineered the chain and been able to duplicate it. However, if it is cheap, I'm going to pass. I don't wanna take the chance that I'm getting slin or something else. I've actually had a hypo incident after pinning igf and it scared me a little to think about what I was doing. The only way to find out is to have it tested yourself. I just ordered some human grade igf1 lr3. Cost me 500 after shipping. I'm gonna put it up against Chinese stuff I already have and see what happens. This same company has igf human for 1400 - I got the lr3 since that's what I have from the pep company. Ahh research.
 
RockShawn said:
This is a good question. It stands to reason that someone has reverse engineered the chain and been able to duplicate it. However, if it is cheap, I'm going to pass. I don't wanna take the chance that I'm getting slin or something else. I've actually had a hypo incident after pinning igf and it scared me a little to think about what I was doing. The only way to find out is to have it tested yourself. I just ordered some human grade igf1 lr3. Cost me 500 after shipping. I'm gonna put it up against Chinese stuff I already have and see what happens. This same company has igf human for 1400 - I got the lr3 since that's what I have from the pep company. Ahh research.

I also had some hypo incidents using a well known pep suppliers IGF, this is the reason I bailed on my IGF experiment. I was using it pre workout and it messed me up to the point I had to bail on my workout. I would end up in the kitchen eating a ton of carbs to keep from passing out.

So another question is this, is it a common side effect to get hypoglycemic after IGF injection? Is this reaction similar to insulin. Has anyone ever had the skin tightening pumps that IGF is supposed to give?
 
flyingfox said:
I also had some hypo incidents using a well known pep suppliers IGF, this is the reason I bailed on my IGF experiment. I was using it pre workout and it messed me up to the point I had to bail on my workout. I would end up in the kitchen eating a ton of carbs to keep from passing out.

So another question is this, is it a common side effect to get hypoglycemic after IGF injection? Is this reaction similar to insulin. Has anyone ever had the skin tightening pumps that IGF is supposed to give?

I've had this same thing happen to me my first run with igf and i've ran slin. I think slin hypo comes on quicker but the one time I felt it with igf, it was quite similar. Steroiduser was running it the same time as me too. Oddly came on pretty strong as well too.

So to answer your question fox, yes hypo is a known side with igf, but the effects shouldn't be as intense as a hypo attack from slin tho. That's just from my experience with the two ect.

I honestly feel that rock nailed it or something along those lines. Possibly reversed it or made another chain that is very similar to IGF that gives something of the same results. Would make since if theres a patent on IGF, hence there change to something close for legal preposes. Something like with ph's always getting changed ect.

Also sadly enough, one of the ph forums "PHF" recently ran a test on follinstatin (not sure if it was one vendor or on several) and found it to be bunk and believe I think they mentioned they were going to be running a IGF test on some diff vendors ect. I will try and find the link to post up, so can follow along with the test ect.
 

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