Starting Test-E/NPP cycle

[Baited]

So this is what I'm thinking of starting:

400mg Mast-E 1-14
600mg Test-E 1-14
100mg NPP EOD 4-14
20mg Dbol 1-4

I have Arimidex (questionable), Nolva, and Prolacterone http://www.blacklionresearch.com/products/prolactrone/


I have never run Mast-E, or Dbol. I wanted to use Anavar or Winstrol but they never made it and I'm tired of waiting.

If you're wondering why NPP over Deca it's because I have 8 vials of NPP and 0 vials of Deca. Also I loved the NPP and don't see a reason to use Deca.
I have some TNE I will do 100mg pre workout every now and then (probably on legs/chest days).


I'm going to be placing an order soon for some AIs because I think my Arimidex is bunk even though it's from a once legit source (PPP). I had slightly sore/itchy nipples on only Tbol and Test-E and even dosing at 1mg didn't help.

Opinions on adding Anavar or Winstrol after the Dbol? Thinking week 9-10. That would be a 5-6 week break from orals. I'm going for a lean bulk.

 

[CB1]

Its a solid intermediate cycle. I would go with alot more Dball. If your only going 4wks I would go 50-75mg day

 

[TSizemore]

Anavar goes with everything...it's like Blue jeans!!! However, since you're only looking at 5 weeks of Var, I would go with the Winny. It'll dry you out at the end and give that good hard lean look you're wanting to end with. There's no problem with upping the Dbol, as CB suggested. Totally up to you, if you have it on hand.

 

[Baited]

Since I've never taken it I want to see how it is this week at 20mg and go from there. I'll up it in the second week if anything. I have 100 20mg tabs so I have enough to do 40mg for 4-5 weeks.

How long would you run Anavar? 6-8 weeks?


Also for Winny would be first time using it as well. I'll probably start it lower like the dbol and then bump it up. The NPP should help with my joints so hopefully that isn't an issue.


I am also hopefully starting HGH in Jan so that should give me 10 weeks of HGH with this stack. I would order it sooner but I'm going to be traveling for a week and don't think it would be good in the airplane? Or would vial of powder be okay for the flight and then I can mix it when I get there?

 

[CB1]

40mg is fine with the dbal. Most guys do run the var for long runs. It works but its not real strong in comparison to the other orals. My joints dont like the winny. Some guys love it. The NPP will keep the joints ok for most. Dont take anything on the plane your just flirting with disaster.

 

[Keith1569]

If you go with winny, 50-75mg a day is plenty imo. I wouldn't go much lower than 50mg stattitwith the winny.

 

[Buck]

Personally I think your wasting your dbol on 20mgs ed but that's just me. I wouldn't do less than 50mgs ed. Drink plenty of water with these also by the way. As for Var I run it at 75-100mg ed for 8-10 weeks myself. I love var and it one of the safest orals out there to use. My next rub with be this

Test enth 600mg ew
NPP 100mg eod
TNE 100mg pre work out
Var 75-100mg ed

 

[Baited]

I was reading logs and these guys are 50lbs heavier than me saying they responded well to 20-30mg dbol. Since it was my first run with I went towards the lower side.

I'll see how it is in these next couple days and then bump to 30 and try that, then 40 just so I know how it affects me at certain doses this week. I can always extend it a week or two longer.

 

[CB1]

I was reading logs and these guys are 50lbs heavier than me saying they responded well to 20-30mg dbol. Since it was my first run with I went towards the lower side.

I'll see how it is in these next couple days and then bump to 30 and try that, then 40 just so I know how it affects me at certain doses this week. I can always extend it a week or two longer.

BaitedNothing wrong with that bro. Back in the old days dball came in 5mg tabs and guys did much lower doses. Then anadrol comes out in 50mg and things change. Guys that are new did get results from 20mg dball and you dont get twice the result at 40mg. You see alot of guys around 75mg or run dbal and anadrol together but this is more advanced.

 

[TSizemore]

I was reading logs and these guys are 50lbs heavier than me saying they responded well to 20-30mg dbol. Since it was my first run with I went towards the lower side.

I'll see how it is in these next couple days and then bump to 30 and try that, then 40 just so I know how it affects me at certain doses this week. I can always extend it a week or two longer.

BaitedGo for it, man. 20mgs is a fine place to start. No reason at all to jump in at higher doses just because everyone is doing it. Finding your sweet spot is the name of this game....you won't find it with an "all in" attitude. Like CB said, doubling the dose doesn't double the results.

 

[Walker]

Is ten weeks of GH worth the money? I thought 6-9 months was a minimum for GH to have any noticeable gains.

 

[Baited]

Is ten weeks of GH worth the money? I thought 6-9 months was a minimum for GH to have any noticeable gains.

WalkerI meant 10 weeks of it while doing the cycle since it's supposed to have great synergy with AAS.

I will keep running it for at least 6 months. Also depending on goals and what you consider gains, they can be seen in the first month (better recovery, sleep, skin, and start of bf reduction). I'm not planning on running it at high doses for huge muscle growth.

 

[Baited]

Alright I haven't noticed much from the dbol actually. I bumped it up to 30mg for the last 3 days and today I'm going to do 40mg.

So that's 3days 20mg, 3 days 30mg, 1 day 40mg. These are Dragon Pharma 20mg tablets that I purchased probably 2.5 years ago? I just never felt like trying dbol and pushed them aside. They were stored with the rest of my gear in a cool dark closet.

 

[Walker]

I don't notice dbol for atleast one week solid. I normally run 50 mg split into two doses.

 

[Baited]

I don't notice dbol for atleast one week solid. I normally run 50 mg split into two doses.

Walker
Alright I'll see if I notice a difference at the gym tonight. I think these are legit dbol but could be under dosed since those eastern euro labs don't really have the best rep?

I also bought them from a guy that turned scammer I think (Tabs from OLM I believe) but he was sending real DP gear then just took orders with out having it in stock I think.

Anyways, I'll keep using it. I'm also placing an order for nolva, cialis, adex so maybe I'll grab a pack of dbol too just in case I don't feel it by the end of this week.

 

[Akhusker]

Me personally I feel dbol more in liquid form than tabs, less wait to feel the kick, within an hour I feel like I can move a house