Trestolone (Ment) ????

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Who here has experience with this drug?

What are the goods and the bads?

Where can one find a reliable source for this?

I'm hearing that this has tren like properties with out the sides of tren when ran at a correct dose. I'm not going to run this but might possibly be a good substitute to tren as far as sides go.
 
i have taken the trestobol, oral. good for adding size, good for the joints, watch for estrogen sides if prone to those. it definitely bloats and is a wet compound. definite feeling of well-being on this. i was able to add 10 lbs on this and keep it all, at least so far. i just finished it at the end of the year. good to stack with something dry, and absolutely have an ai on hand. i am a noob and have never ran test or tren, so sorry i can't compare. but it is supposedly like a cross between them. i have read that it is much more anabolic than test. i got good results orally, i can only imagine what it would be like transdermally or im.
 
bossman said:
i have taken the trestobol, oral. good for adding size, good for the joints, watch for estrogen sides if prone to those. it definitely bloats and is a wet compound. definite feeling of well-being on this. i was able to add 10 lbs on this and keep it all, at least so far. i just finished it at the end of the year. good to stack with something dry, and absolutely have an ai on hand. i am a noob and have never ran test or tren, so sorry i can't compare. but it is supposedly like a cross between them. i have read that it is much more anabolic than test. i got good results orally, i can only imagine what it would be like transdermally or im.
bossman
So is trestobol the same thing just an oral. What do you mean you've never ran test...serious?
 
yep, i am a noob. trestobol is made by celtic labs and is just capped trestolone. they also sell the powder to make transdermal or for im use, i believe.
 
from HenryV:

MENADIONE (METHYL NOR ANDROSTENEDIONE)

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Nomenclature:

7a-methyl-estra-4-en-3,17-dione

Anabolic/Androgenic Ratio:

960 : 165 - 510 vs testosterone by oral administration [1]

Synonyms:

7a-methyl-19-norandrostenedione, Mentabolan, MENT dione, Trestione.

History:

This is a brand new prohormone from PHF/IBE, never seen before on the prohormone or pharmaceutical market. It was synthesized and tested for anabolic and androgenic activity in rats in 1963 [1].

Function:

This is a prohormone to the black-market bodybuilding steroid and experimental contraceptive Trestolone, aka MENT. It's been described on some internet forums as "MENT dione", however since MENT is short for 7a-Methyl 19-Nor-Testosterone, this compound could more accurately be described as 7a-Methyl-19-Nor-Androstenedione, and given an acronym of it's own like MENAD or MENORAD.

Structure:

This prohormone is a "19-nor", or nandrolone derivative, and differs from nandrolone in that this hormone has a 17-ketone, where nandrolone has a 17b-hydroxy function, and also has the addition of a 7a-methyl group. In the same way as "Boladrol" is a 7a-methylated dione version of methyl testosterone, this compound is a 7a-methylated dione version of nandrolone.

Please don't confuse this compound (or the target steroid) with the widely-feared mibolerone, a.k.a. "cheque drops", which is a 17a-methylated version of trestolone (or dimethylated nandrolone). While MENT has the 7a-methyl/19-nor combination that produces a far stronger steroid than either configuration does alone, it lacks the 17a-methyl group that tends to dramatically increase liver toxicity.

Effects:

Effects should be similar to the injectable trestolone acetate. It's a strongly anabolic, moderately androgenic compound which should elicit significant strength gains and increased accumulation of muscle mass at an appropriate dosage. Users may also experience mood changes, such as an increase in confidence and subjective well being, and/or an increase in workout aggression.

Side Effects:

Side-effects may include those common to anabolic androgenic steroids, including but not limited to: blood pressure increases, HPTA disruption, adverse shifts in lipoprotein subfractions (increased LDL, lowered HDL cholesterol), acne, hair growth or loss. This product should not be used by women or teens. There's evidence that MENT aromatizes to some degree [2], so the gyno-prone may wish to either avoid this compound or co-administer an aromatase inhibitor (AI) or selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM).

One side-effect that many might fear from this compound is the loss of libido and/or erectile dysfunction often seen with 19-nor derivatives (known colloquially as "deca-dick"). On the contrary, tests conducted with the target hormone trestolone (MENT) have found that it had a positive mood, libido, and erection-stimulating effect similar to that of testosterone [3], though this may not necessarily hold true with the supraphysiological doses used by bodybuilders.

Metabolism and Bioavailability:

As mentioned, this is a "dione" prohormone. In the body the ketone at C17 will be hydrolysed by 17b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1 (17b-HSD1) into the active compound trestolone (MENT). Trestolone itself has been shown to be roughly 6 times as anabolic as methyl test by oral administration, and around 2.5 times as androgenic [4].

Unlike steroids like testosterone and DHT, trestolone shows no affinity for SHBG [5], so all of the converted compound in circulation should be bioavailable. For the same reason, it's likely to have a short terminal half-life so frequent dosing is suggested.

As most will know, testosterone and similar delta-4 steroids are typically converted to stronger compounds like DHT and DHT derivatives by the enzyme 5-alpha reductase (5AR). 19-nor compounds are an exception to this rule, with 5a-reduced nandrolone (or 19-nor DHT) being a far less potent androgen than nandrolone itself [6]. The 7a-methylation of trestolone (and by extension Mentabolan) hinders the reduction of this double bond, so delta 5(10) isomers are a major excreted metabolite [7]. This means that the 7a-methyl group not only makes the compound stronger by increasing androgen receptor affinity [8], but also reduces the ability of the body's enzymes to break it down into weaker metabolites.

MENT is a strong compound for several reasons (including as previously discussed steric hindrance to 5a-reduction, and an inability to bind with SHBG), but the primary reason for its strength is the increased androgen receptor affinity caused by the conformational changes of the 7a-methyl group [8][9]. The same will be true of the prohormone to MENT; Mentabolan.

References:
[1] Steroids 1, 299 (1963)
[2] J Steroid Biochem Mol Biol. 1994 Feb;48(2-3):297-304.
[3] J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 1999 Oct;84(10):3556-62.
[4] Acta Endocrinologica, Vol 43, Issue 3, 399-411
[5] J Androl. 1997 Jul-Aug;18(4):352-8.
[6] The Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Volume 53, Issues 1-6, 1995, 253-257
[7] Recent advances in doping analysis (12). Sport und Buch Strauß, Köln (2004) 261-268
[8] Steroids. 2009 Feb;74(2):172-97.
[9] The Journal of Steroid Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Volume 71, Issues 5-6, 1999, 213-222
 
that write up is for the mentdione, the prohormone to MENT, but you get the idea
 
Thanks for the info boss.

You mean to tell me that besides hard training and diet, you got as jacked as you are off only prohormones?
 
i am not that jacked, but yes lol
 

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