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[GRIM]

Looks like I may have to take it into my own hands, was on trt before strokes, got the test levels of an 80-90 year
old but the endo called and said all my tests are normal, she will not be doing a thing.

How on earth could they consider all my issues plus the extremely low amounts of food I have toeat w/o
gaining a ton of weight 'normal'

 

[Shasta]

A. you are entitled to a second opinion
B. You sometimes gotta do what you gotta do. IMO i think you should look into some HGH or peptide research. Lots of interesting stuff out now.

As for a I would seriously look into getting a referral to a new endo. Females sho no sympathy to male hormone issues IMO

 

[gator]

IMO fuck the doctors grim take it into your own hands 250-200mg every10-14 days would cause no harm. I think you would greatly benefit from it

 

[gator]

I thought I previously posted on this guess not. Grim I self perscribe HRT I have the t levels of a 90yr old man as well I do 250mg and try to stick to 10-14 day protocol. After cycle I do 325 mg every 7 days with maybe 300 mg of primo and rapper down to my normal HRT dose helps me maintain most of my gains

 

[GRIM]

i just can't believe with everything going on they wont do a thing.

 

[Buck]

What were your levels and the ranges they used. Did she tell you?

 

[Wabbitt]

Yeah brother, the numbers you said before wouldn't even qualify as low normal. What kind of quack doctor are you seeing. Smack that bitch up.

 

[GRIM]

She didnt tell me but the test i had just before was barely over 200 free test.

 

[Wabbitt]

She didnt tell me but the test i had just before was barely over 200 free test.

Exactly, and low normal is over 300. Most good doctors know that even that is too low to be considered normal or acceptable. You'd really want to be over 5 at a minimum to feel "normal"

 

[Shasta]

She didnt tell me but the test i had just before was barely over 200 free test.

2d opinion bro im telling you. you are legally entitled.

 

[Shasta]

She didnt tell me but the test i had just before was barely over 200 free test.

Exactly, and low normal is over 300. Most good doctors know that even that is too low to be considered normal or acceptable. You'd really want to be over 5 at a minimum to feel "normal"

she is also legallly supposed to tell you your results, even if they are normal. shes supposed to explain the meanings and the levels etc.

 

[GRIM]

taking a natty booster to start, see if it helps

 

[Buck]

She didnt tell me but the test i had just before was barely over 200 free test.

Exactly, and low normal is over 300. Most good doctors know that even that is too low to be considered normal or acceptable. You'd really want to be over 5 at a minimum to feel "normal"

she is also legallly supposed to tell you your results, even if they are normal. shes supposed to explain the meanings and the levels etc.

They wont just come out and tell you your levels as most wont or dont understand it. You have to ask to see or know what the ranges are. As for as legally they only tell you if you ask them. Dr.s go by low and high on blood tests. Unless they see either one you are with in range. lots to do with insurance issues also.

 

[gator]

At 29 mine were at 200 on the dot I will have to see what my total test was it was super low as well

 

[Wabbitt]

You can also go to an independent lab and have a full profile done. Then YOU will get the results.

 

[Buck]

You can also go to an independent lab and have a full profile done. Then YOU will get the results.

I have tried this , some wont do it with out Drs orders.

 

[Wabbitt]

this place will do it, there are tons more on the net. http://www.accesalabs.com/howitworks

 

[TSizemore]

I have a link to an excellent resource for independant blood work for $50.!! I'll try to find it, and post it here. As long as you can read the results, you're golden.

 

[GRIM]

im pretty much f'd atm tbh :/ took 4ever even to get into the endo

 

[gator]

Fuck it grim lets get you going on some self prescribe HRT you don't need them