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What to Do About Shoulder and Joint Pain

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What to Do About Shoulder and Joint Pain
April 30, 2015 By John Doe


Here’s a question from a reader…

What do you recommend for joint pain especially rotator cuff and elbows due to overhead movements and bench presses? This is annoying especially since I am an active guy. Thank you.

First off, drop heavy overhead pressing for good. It’s absolutely worthless other than ego lifting.

The overhead press is the most dangerous thing for rotator cuff and A/C joint because over time the cartilage in the joint wears down and it becomes bone on bone.

The overhead press pinches the joint the most, and heavier weight pinches it and wears it away much faster.

As for elbows, I’m guessing the pain is right behind the elbow where the tricep tendon might be? That seems to be the most common place for it anyways.

If the pain in the shoulder is more in the joint or the front of the deltoid then my best guess is it’s A/C joint impingement. When this becomes bad enough a shoulder scope is going to be needed. This is outpatient surgery where they go into your shoulder and clean out the joint by grinding away at it a little and giving it more room to move around more freely.

If the pain is more towards the rear of the shoulder then you may be dealing with a labral tear. An X-ray would show an A/C impingment because you’ll see where the ends of the bones look frayed and ratty looking. A labrum issue will require an MRI, and this usually requires a regular X-ray first and then the Doc calls for the MRI (basically a nice way to get more $$ from you).
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A couple questions I would ask from you are:


#1- Does it bother you in your sleep? and
#2- is it only bad when under weight, or is it bad all the time?


I had A/C impingements in both shoulders and it sort of felt like an arrow was stuck in my shoulder, and the pain radiated from the front straight through my shoulder. sleeping on it was terrible, and every morning I awoke it felt stiff and sore.

You need to back off heavy weight for starters. For chest ditch bench pressing with barbells for awhile, and stick to machines or some light-moderate dumbbells. Forget a low rep range for now, keep your chest pressing in the teens and 20’s for reps, and cut out overhead pressing altogether and just do lateral raises and rear delt raises. Cut out front delt raises as well.

For triceps definitely quit doing skullcrushers. I would stick to primarily tricep pressdowns with the rope for higher reps. Think of your sets more like pump-up sets than heavy weight that grinds and tears the joints up.

Don’t worry, you will not shrink down or anything. And it’s probably not for good, we just want to back off so you can heal and do not need any surgery if at all possible.

Definitely start taking glucosamine for your joints, and something else to consider is GHRP-2 peptide, for it’s tissue regenerative and joint healing properties, along with a low dose of Deca Durabolin every week. 100-200mg/wk should work. I’d go 10 wks like that and see if the pain doesn’t go away.[/size]
 
Man, this is exactly the pain i am getting in the front on chest/shoulder/tri workouts. Thanks for this post. I'll be going lower weight and no more barbell for me for a while. I swear man even the deca is no longer helping my joints. It's that bad when i lift on my shoulders. Another good read from FIST. Thanks bro
 
blasson said:
Man, this is exactly the pain i am getting in the front on chest/shoulder/tri workouts. Thanks for this post. I'll be going lower weight and no more barbell for me for a while. I swear man even the deca is no longer helping my joints. It's that bad when i lift on my shoulders. Another good read from FIST. Thanks bro

Number 1 cause of shoulder pain when doing pressing exercises is you're not retracting the scapula before the exercise, pinch shoulder blades together, get into position, dig traps in to bench keeping scapula tight, press with elbows in not flared out. try it
 
MisterB. you are 100% right. i was watching a video the other day on form with benching and the guy kept talking about setting his shoulders in place then lift. He didnt go into details on exactly what he was doing but everytime i seen him re-set i caught on to what he was talking about. i've been lifting for over 6 years and i've never done that. im sure that has alot to do with it and i benched yesterday doing just as you said but the pain was still there. not as bad though i will admit. i just think the dmg is already done or inflamation is too much. I will continue to work on proper form as well as light weights, higher reps for atleast 3 months and see if that helps repair whatever needs to be repaired. Im not really going to train for strength anymore. Yes i want to be stronger but i want my joints to be pain free when i age as well. Im doing this for phsyique now and most importantly for the health benifits.
 
i am having all sorts of rotator cuff problems. it seems like one is always messed up, and the other one is fine. sometimes the right one will be giving me trouble, but lately it's the left one. i thought that was the good one, wtf?!!
 
bossman said:
i am having all sorts of rotator cuff problems. it seems like one is always messed up, and the other one is fine. sometimes the right one will be giving me trouble, but lately it's the left one. i thought that was the good one, wtf?!!

I always have issues with shoulders and elbows one of the reasons i have small arms lol...but about 6 months ago I started setting my back before pressing and it has made a huge difference, also watch curling when I went to PT for my shoulder they said 80% of shoulder pain from guys that lift is from working biceps it sounds strange but pay attention to your rear delt pain when you do curls etc...
 
blasson said:
Man, this is exactly the pain i am getting in the front on chest/shoulder/tri workouts. Thanks for this post. I'll be going lower weight and no more barbell for me for a while. I swear man even the deca is no longer helping my joints. It's that bad when i lift on my shoulders. Another good read from FIST. Thanks bro


Glad you found it helpful brother.I would definitely stop using the bar for a bit and also drop the weight.I have to be honest with you.since my workouts have turned more to lighter weight/higher reps,my pain issues have either lessened or stopped completely while still getting amazing workouts in.

Great advice MisterB.
 
that makes sense to me, Wacker. i can definitely feel it in my shoulder/rotator cuff area when doing curls.
 
Found this thread and realized I was doing my form wrong during shoulder workouts. Lately I've had some pain in the top of my right shoulder, which is quickly getting better. Feels like a pinched nerve. Thanks again yall for the knowledge.
 
Daredevil said:
Found this thread and realized I was doing my form wrong during shoulder workouts. Lately I've had some pain in the top of my right shoulder, which is quickly getting better. Feels like a pinched nerve. Thanks again yall for the knowledge.


Glad the thread was able to help you out man.Definitely brought some great responses.

Thanks to all of you who contributed.
 

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