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Why Tren can skew E2 testing

RockShawn

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The Roche ECLIA assay starts by introducing antibodies that are designed to bind specifically to the what’s being tested for (in this case estradiol). The antigen also has a ruthenium molecule attached to it that can emit light with electrical current (through electron excitation). The amount of light that is emitted later reveals the concentration of the compound being tested for such that the more light detected, the lower the concentration. But here’s where tren causes problems…

While the antibodies are very specific to estradiol in this particular test, there is cross-reactivity and roughly 0.1% will bind to trenbolone. Doesn’t sound like much, but trenbolone’s structure reduces the excitability of the ruthenium complex from before, meaning it takes more electricity (and thus electrons flowing through) to generate any light. Remember, the less light emitted, the higher the concentration of E2 is thought to exist with this method.

Next, these tiny magnetic beads that are coated with a streptavidin protein are added to the blood. These beads bind to the estradiol and some of the tren that already attached to the first antibody added (with the ruthenium that emits light under electrical current).

Now before the electricity flows to detect light, another compound is introduced in a known quantity. in this case, it is more estradiol that has already been “biotinylated” (estradiol with a vitamin b7 attached to it). Biotin and streptavidin are extremely attracted to each other, so this new estradiol (that will not emit light) competes with the existing estradiol to bind to the magnetic beads. The idea is that the more estradiol that was already in the blood, the more of this new labeled estradiol gets competed off and because this alters the total light emission, you can extrapolate how much estradiol was in the sample originally.

Unfortunately, the tren doesn’t ever lose its fight to keep its little microbead against the biotinylated estradiol because tren is king. And as reactions continue, more and more tren ends up swooping in and dominating like the alpha that it is.

Finally, a magnetic plate pulls all of the compounds that matter out of the solution, and the rest of the blood is washed away, including your true estradiol levels.
 
Basically what happens is Trenbolone suppresses natural testosterone production which also suppresses natural estradiol levels. This is why you always here me say, you should always use test with Tren. Trenbolone doesn't aromatize, which means there is very little estrogen available now (with tren alone) and Estrogen crashes. Tren is just too powerful all on it's own, and it only takes a little bit of Test to bring Estrogen levels up enough to work out right.
 
albeit true, this is talking about blood tests specifically. The tren binds with the e2 and causes less light thus making it appear the concentration of Estrodial is greater than it is.
 
RockShawn said:
albeit true, this is talking about blood tests specifically. The tren binds with the e2 and causes less light thus making it appear the concentration of Estrodial is greater than it is.
Yea, I should have probably been more specific. I was referring to how the Tren binds with E2 and how you end up with low levels, in spite of what the test shows.
 

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