Beyond Bernie Sanders: Why we should raise the minimum wage to $1 million an hou

[Hanzo]

I am smart enough to be accepted to two medical schools already with a few more on the way 😉

THEN PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US ALL TO THE EARLY AWAKENIGS OF SOCIALISM. WHO WERE THEIR FOUNDERS, GUIDING LIGHTS, ETC.? THEN PLEASE PROCEED TO TELL OF US THE TENANTS AND PROTOCOLS TO ACHIEVE THE UTOPIA THEY ENVISIONED FOR THE ENTIRE EARTH, INCLUDING THE GLOBAL SLAVERY FARM. YOU THINK YOUR CRAPPY DEGREES FROM 3 COMMUNITY COLLEGES WILL GET YOU A SPECIAL PLACE IN THE NEW SOCIALISM? YOU ARE TRULY A RARE FORM OF CONFLICTION. I'LL PUT MY EDUCATION , OR MY 21, 18 OR 16 YEAR OLD AGAINST YOURS ANYTIME.

 

[Hanzo]

Sorry for the caps, wasn't yelling.

 

[Hanzo]

What middle class? We have upperclass and working class in this country. Tax policy the past 50 years has destroyed the middle class in favor of the wealthy.

Call it what you want it doesnt matter it just a name. I dont want people living off the government that dont need to but there has to be there just in case. Tax the rich, invest in the country, put the people back to work

"Tax the rich, invest in the country" .... ever heard that before? If the rich are taxed they will sit on their money. 20,000,000 new jobs created in 2 Reagan terms proved that. He had to deal with Carter's recession for 2-3 tears also. hE SLASHED THE TOP MARGINAL TAX RATES FROM OVER 75% TO 28%.Socialism isn't fair or equitable To ANYONE.

 

[morrey]

My crappy degrees?

I guess my medical degree from a top 20 school will be just as crappy lol

 

[morrey]

hopefully your kids will be able to operate on themselves because you deem me less capable than they are

 

[GRIM]

If you're going to take that extreme as to what defines all socialism them nobody in power labeled a socialist even comes.close
There has been perversions of every political philosophy

 

[Hanzo]

Bullshit. Socialism provides zero upward mobility. Jamestown, 1607, found it didn't work. Some people don't care for hard WORK IF THEY GET A DOLE. Capitalism PROVIDES, through innovation, hard work, blood, sweat and tears, a way out of poverty. Socialiam is stagnation , Capitalism is growth.

How many innercity ghetto dwellers (Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams,etc.) would have made it out through socialism, which is designed to create a need and fill it. It's BRUTE FORCE CYBERNETICS.

 

[Hanzo]

If you're going to take that extreme as to what defines all socialism them nobody in power labeled a socialist even comes.close
There has been perversions of every political philosophy

Just what "extreme" are you speaking of Grim?

 

[SkinNbone]

I heard that certain states that went to 15$ an hour saw an increase in unemployment.

Two reasons: businesses letting people go to compensate and workers quitting cause it's messing with there welfare

 

[SkinNbone]

I also find it so fucking funny that Trump keeps climbing in the poles the more people try to dog him. We live in some interesting times lol

 

[GRIM]

Just what "extreme" are you speaking of Grim?

Your mention of some of the worst dictators being socialist not exact quote but ghist of it.
Both socialism and capitalism in there purest forms are evil.
Trick is finding a middle ground that works.

 

[SkinNbone]

Capitalism is evil? Giving everyone a fair chance and not handing out welfare to every dump lazy fuck is evil?

I think capitalism aka free market economy sounds great. But let me guess it's rich getting richer? Poor getting poorer?

How about the rich get richer cause they got themselves in that position. And the poor just wait for a fucking hand out. But in this country the poor are morbidly obese and have cell phones and flat screen tv's

I am the middle class. The class Obama is destroying. Thank god I been having a great job before his dumb ass got in charge

My point is that Capitalism is based off free market system is it not? Get off your ass and make something of yourself and reap the rewards system?

 

[GRIM]

Capitalism is evil? Giving everyone a fair chance and not handing out welfare to every dump lazy fuck is evil?

I think capitalism aka free market economy sounds great. But let me guess it's rich getting richer? Poor getting poorer?

How about the rich get richer cause they got themselves in that position. And the poor just wait for a fucking hand out. But in this country the poor are morbidly obese and have cell phones and flat screen tv's

I am the middle class. The class Obama is destroying. Thank god I been having a great job before his dumb ass got in charge

My point is that Capitalism is based off free market system is it not? Get off your ass and make something of yourself and reap the rewards system?

Middle class been being destroyed well before Obama.
I said in its purest forms. Wages of under $1, no workers safety, all about the company.

BTW a capatalist Republican is destroying my states economy, driving wages down, only people benefiting is the rich

 

[SkinNbone]

We have a president and all his people in charge destroying this nations economy so I feel your pain

 

[Hanzo]

Your mention of some of the worst dictators being socialist not exact quote but ghist of it.
Both socialism and capitalism in there purest forms are evil.
Trick is finding a middle ground that works.

There's no comparison of the two. They are polar opposites. One gives opportunity through the free market by producing goods to give capital, the other gives big government as opportunity, which must redistribute producers money.

I think morrey might be able to understand that. My 16 year old wrote it, my explanation was way too long, so I asked him for differences in cap v soc.

 

[Hanzo]

Capitalism is evil? Giving everyone a fair chance and not handing out welfare to every dump lazy fuck is evil?

I think capitalism aka free market economy sounds great. But let me guess it's rich getting richer? Poor getting poorer?

How about the rich get richer cause they got themselves in that position. And the poor just wait for a fucking hand out. But in this country the poor are morbidly obese and have cell phones and flat screen tv's

I am the middle class. The class Obama is destroying. Thank god I been having a great job before his dumb ass got in charge

My point is that Capitalism is based off free market system is it not? Get off your ass and make something of yourself and reap the rewards system?

It was partially a complaint that I mentioned atheists/commies were responsible for over 80,000,000 deaths in the last century. They didn't seem to like that.

 

[Hanzo]

We have a president and all his people in charge destroying this nations economy so I feel your pain

(Grimmy is a closet lib/moderate, tee hee). Don't tell anyone.

 

[sityslicker1]

My crappy degrees?

I guess my medical degree from a top 20 school will be just as crappy lol

O/T You got to get through the program first before you can brag, its a beast. No more EG/bbing, dating, drinking etc. how did you score on your MCAT?

 

[GRIM]

There's no comparison of the two. They are polar opposites. One gives opportunity through the free market by producing goods to give capital, the other gives big government as opportunity, which must redistribute producers money.

I think morrey might be able to understand that. My 16 year old wrote it, my explanation was way too long, so I asked him for differences in cap v soc.

did I ever say there is a comparison? No I said both in their purest forms are bad.

I'm no liberal, I don't blindly follow either side.
I vote Republican more than liberal, both sides are crazy in my honest opinion

I'll make it so you can under stand.
I like the number 4 but I refuse to get behind a mantra saying 3+9=4

 

[Hanzo]

The entire convo was a comparison between the 2. I'm tired.

Thanks so much for making it easy for me to UNDER STAND, perfesser. I was probably way OVER STANDING it.

Besides that, you were arguing with my 16 year old.