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Coming off completely with NO PCT????

Hanzo said:
Yeah, you have to find legit products, but, a PCT of Aromasin for 2 weeks along with Torem for 3 more is very mild compared to Nolva and Clomid.

You could also use OTC's like Damage Control, Cycle Assist and PCT Assist. At least then you're reconditioning your liver and other internals. You can also use DAA (which has raised Test levels 42% in 12 days in clinical trials) and definitely start using DIM, that's a must, IMO.

The OTCs might be a good idea. Was also thinking formeron which is transdernal formestane for an AI, which would be less ingested drugs, better for liver and lipids.
 
200mgs on the cruise is like still being on a very light cycle ... true trt is rarely over 150 and most around 125... so you never really got down to normal (on the high end ) t levels... 200 would put you over the high end.

this is all speculation on my part... so you be the judge on what you need... but a taper would be the way i would go.... unless you are old enough to be on life time trt...then i would taper down and run trt doses most of the year
 
krustus said:
200mgs on the cruise is like still being on a very light cycle ... true trt is rarely over 150 and most around 125... so you never really got down to normal (on the high end ) t levels... 200 would put you over the high end.

this is all speculation on my part... so you be the judge on what you need... but a taper would be the way i would go.... unless you are old enough to be on life time trt...then i would taper down and run trt doses most of the year

Yeah I agree with you there on the trt dose. I'm in my 30s but I never plan on having any more kids. I have enough kids for a few families lol. I don't have a problem with trt forever.
 
krustus said:
200mgs on the cruise is like still being on a very light cycle ... true trt is rarely over 150 and most around 125... so you never really got down to normal (on the high end ) t levels... 200 would put you over the high end.

this is all speculation on my part... so you be the judge on what you need... but a taper would be the way i would go.... unless you are old enough to be on life time trt...then i would taper down and run trt doses most of the year
How come when I say this, I get questioned?? But, you're right here, TRT is as low as you're talking and even lower, 100mg. So many people throw around the word Cruise thinking they are doing Trt when in reality they are just doing a real small cycle.
 
How come when I say this, I get questioned?? But, you're right here, TRT is as low as you're talking and even lower, 100mg. So many people throw around the word Cruise thinking they are doing Trt when in reality they are just doing a real small cycle.

lol... me and tsize agee on something!!! j/k bro.... i totally agree though.. the answer is not always more testosterone... if health is your concern be conservative. these are powerful drugs.
 
Z82 said:
Yeah I agree with you there on the trt dose. I'm in my 30s but I never plan on having any more kids. I have enough kids for a few families lol. I don't have a problem with trt forever.

If you could strictly stick to a conservative TRT dose....best option IMHO, it shocks the body when you blast/TRT/blast/TRT etc. it's a personal choice to commit to TRT.

My last blood test was 10 days after a 100 mg injection of Cyp, came in in the 600s Dr. Was happy and all of my other values looked good.
 

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