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Morris GH

grim said:
not a bunch, im of the mind less is more.
hgh however is a bit trickier, far more costly and can have some sides imo that justify easing in to mild gear first..

The only mild gear I'd consider, or any gear for that matter, would be Testosterone cream. I just don't wanna mess with my body's natural functioning to much man. That a good way to start?
 
Morris2260 said:
The only mild gear I'd consider, or any gear for that matter, would be Testosterone cream. I just don't wanna mess with my body's natural functioning to much man
something like anavar would be better or even a sarm to start.

remember diet and training are key
 
But why have you chosen to use hgh over something else? Hgh is really the least bang for the bucks you will find. A $60 vial of test 400mg will probably give you better results than $600 worth of gh. Imo the most pronouced effect of gh is the cts, not a good thing. I don't know where you buying the gh but also a good chance is not actually gh. It's easy to make a combination of peptides that will give you higher HGH serum levels, even elevated igf levels so you will think it's gh. Also the side effects of using gh you didn't mention...intestinal/irregular growth from elevated igf levels, using the t4 can cause thyroid Shut down, possibly permanently. You want better eyesight? Go to an eye doctor. Better sleep? I sleep great to begin even on tren so didn't notice any difference , maybe it's just me. As far as increased energy and libido I've never even heard of those benefits myself and I have not experienced them ,maybe some do I don't know? Go back to the drawing board, do a lot more research, decide what it is you want to get from this
 
Morris2260 said:
The only mild gear I'd consider, or any gear for that matter, would be Testosterone cream. I just don't wanna mess with my body's natural functioning to much man. That a good way to start?

No, it's not
 
tkasch30 said:
But why have you chosen to use hgh over something else? Hgh is really the least bang for the bucks you will find. A $60 vial of test 400mg will probably give you better results than $600 worth of gh. Imo the most pronouced effect of gh is the cts, not a good thing. I don't know where you buying the gh but also a good chance is not actually gh. It's easy to make a combination of peptides that will give you higher HGH serum levels, even elevated igf levels so you will think it's gh. Also the side effects of using gh you didn't mention...intestinal/irregular growth from elevated igf levels, using the t4 can cause thyroid Shut down, possibly permanently. You want better eyesight? Go to an eye doctor. Better sleep? I sleep great to begin even on tren so didn't notice any difference , maybe it's just me. As far as increased energy and libido I've never even heard of those benefits myself and I have not experienced them ,maybe some do I don't know? Go back to the drawing board, do a lot more research, decide what it is you want to get from this

Can you suggest a combination of peptides and sarms? That won't mess up my natural ability to produce critical hormones.
I'll be getting it from, obviously, The guy is legit, and it will be pharma but I might have to pass on the T4 for the time being lol.
I don't wanna wear spectacles man, I've always had trouble with sleep. I have ADHD, can be difficult droppin off at times. Also I don't wanna take anything that's gonna stay floatin around my system for to long. Only HGH and EPO leave your system in the timeframe I want
 
Well... Yeah of course but not specifically man I don't need to be/look totally fuckin jacked. Just improve performance I guess, build real muscle/strength not pumped up, watery muscle.
Reps is my MO, not powerlifting.
 
grim said:
something like anavar would be better or even a sarm to start.

remember diet and training are key

Anavar is synthetic testosterone, right? Nah, I don't want that stuff. Sarms might be an option still, however I don't know what the hell they are lol. I have been advised to try them by a geezer who knows what I'm after but he told me to look them up, which I haven't done yet. Will do now.
 
tkasch30 said:
But why have you chosen to use hgh over something else? Hgh is really the least bang for the bucks you will find. A $60 vial of test 400mg will probably give you better results than $600 worth of gh. Imo the most pronouced effect of gh is the cts, not a good thing. I don't know where you buying the gh but also a good chance is not actually gh. It's easy to make a combination of peptides that will give you higher HGH serum levels, even elevated igf levels so you will think it's gh. Also the side effects of using gh you didn't mention...intestinal/irregular growth from elevated igf levels, using the t4 can cause thyroid Shut down, possibly permanently. You want better eyesight? Go to an eye doctor. Better sleep? I sleep great to begin even on tren so didn't notice any difference , maybe it's just me. As far as increased energy and libido I've never even heard of those benefits myself and I have not experienced them ,maybe some do I don't know? Go back to the drawing board, do a lot more research, decide what it is you want to get from this


I've used a bunch of different hgh consistently for the last 3 years or so, generics to pharm grade. Now I've never really experienced better sleep at night but I have noticed I am tired throughout the day, at times. This can happen when I change brands or doses but stables out after a get used to it. Never noticed any type of increase in energy off it either, never really heard any body talk of that being a benefit, maybe can give people a sense of well being but idk...

That's a lot of money to be spending on something when dieting and a healthy lifestyle can give you the results you are looking for. Easier said then done, but I just feel you will be very dissapointed with the results you get from hgh alone.

I don't think randomly using a testosterone cream would be beneficial either would have your levels all over the place .
 
tkasch30 said:
Anavar synthetic test? Lol. You've done no research at all, I give up....good luck

You're bang on lad. I've not researched Anavar in the slightest. Why would I. Good luck to you son.
 
Morris, HGH does some amazing things but it is costly. Most members here wouldn't waste the money running it for a lifetime just for improved sleep etc, when there is cheaper options etc.

If you dead set on running pharma HGH run it at 3iu a day for a year or so.

I wouldn't recommend any steroid to include testosterone cream if you want to keep your current levels. But keep in mind every year your natural levels will drop naturally...
 
anavar is very mild, something like anavar, igflr3, s4 would be a good start..there are many peptide possibles
 
Man I just don't wanna take anything that's gonna mess up my system. Just read a bit about Testosterone cream n it's not what I thought. It will, I'm sure decrease my natural production. Should only start worrying about loss of Test when you hit 40.
My testosterone is off the charts man.
If anyone can give me an idea of a solid AAS cycle (something I never wanted to do) that's actually healthy as just a cycle to ease me into HGH then I'll happily give it a shot. If your gonna start taking AAS, you're gonna have to always take them imo as you're gonna cock up your system and will need it just to be a healthy male. When I hit my late 30's, early 40's I'll definitely look into it as a long term option.
For now I'ma stick to the HGH long term, EPO in cycles occasionally n that's that unless, as I say, someone informs me of an AAS cycle that's not gonna be detrimental then I'm all ears.

[member=386]thabeast[/member] When I say increased energy. I'd attribute that to the heightened sense of wellbeing/zest for life. Not actual increase in blood flow or whatever. Yeah, dieting and a healthy lifestyle is obviously the most important thing. We'll see what the HGH does for me long term. If tkasch is right and it does absolutely nothing for me then I'd either look around n research an AAS cycle to supplement it or just fuck it off
 
you need proper pct....

anavar however really wont mess you up, proper pct and you bounce back.

hgh is not without sides...
 
grim said:
you need proper pct....

anavar however really wont mess you up, proper pct and you bounce back.

hgh is not without sides...

Appreciate the advice boss. Only just noticed your previous post!
I did read a bit about Anavar n it does sound like something I wouldn't be adverse to. It has an anabolic rating up to 6 times that of testosterone but will give you lean muscle mass and tissue and no water retention. Sounds okay to me.
So how would I cycle this then, along with 2 IU 5 on 2 off Genotropin?
I don't know anything about a PCT either.
Are you suggesting this also as an alternative to T4? Or just as something to ease me into a HGH/T4 combo?
Thanks man

HGH doesn't have sides anything like Testosterone/AAS use does. It could possibly slightly decrease GH production long term, but that's not as matter of fact as T.
 
gh has more sides than that and gear sides really are exegerared especially if low amounts used.

anavar is so mild it's not like you really need to cycle like that and tbh I wouldn't know a proper gh and var cycle..
 
I think he needs to research pct, the how's and why's.
done properly gear shouldn't shut your test down permanently.
 
tkasch30 said:
2ius 5 days a week, there's no point. Lose the gh idea...forget it.

Lol, I thought you were "done" here?
Only 5 days as I don't wanna sniff coke on days I'm taking GH as cocaine is a vaso-restrictor n there's possibility of a heart attack there. Unless someone tells me it's safe then that's what's happening.
Don't want your opinion boss to be honest. I've heard it, no need to repeat yourself. Enjoy your day. Thanks
 

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