Need newbie advice on HGH reconstitution

[Vino 1]

Thanks hanzo ima total noob to HGH and this is for a friend I want to help
Him right

 

[vrod2002]

TIMING

As described above, the body produces HGH is a pulsatile fashion throughout the day with the heaviest pulses occurring approximately 2 hours or so after going to bed and as you fall into a deep sleep. Injectible HGH is completely absorbed and put to use within approximately 3 hours. The strategy with respect to timing depends somewhat on our age and the other elements of our cycle. As you will see below, there is no single best strategy � it depends a lot on your individual situation.

For those that are between their late 20�s and early 50�s, there is still a reasonable chance that your own endogenous production of HGH is at a reasonable level. The best time to take and injection, this being the case, would be early morning �. After your body�s own release of HGH in the night. If you get up to go to the bathroom in the early morning (3 -5am), this is probably the perfect time to take a couple of units of HGH. This will be the least disruptive time to take an injection of HGH. The second best time would be first thing in the morning when you wake up.

If you are splitting your doses, the two times of the day when your cortisol levels are at peak are when you wake up and in the early afternoon. This being the case, another good strategy is to take your HGH injections at these times. Cortisol is very catabolic by nature and a well -timed HGH injection can go a long way toward blunting this effect.

If you are in your late 50�s or beyond, or if for some reason you have a condition that has rendered your pituitary incapable of a normal release of HGH, a great time to take HGH is right before bed. This allows you to closely mimic the natural pattern that would occur if your pituitary were functioning properly. For the rest of us, taking your HGH right before bed is going to end up creating a negative feedback loop, robbing you of your body�s own nightly pulse of HGH. While the jury is still out (conflicting studies) as to the absolute nature of the negative feedback time, it is clear that the closer we push our injection to the time our body is ready to give us its biggest pulses of HGH, we are going to end up derailing our own triggers and secretion.

Yet another strategy should be considered if you are using insulin with your HGH. Insulin should be used immediately post workout. HGH and insulin do some great things together � they shuttle nutrients in a very complimentary way with each other, and the combination of HGH and Insulin create the best environment for IGF-1 production from the liver. If you are using insulin immediately post workout, taking a few IU�s of HGH pre-workout will allow HGH to offer all of its fat mobilizing effects while getting your HGH and Insulin to the liver at about the right time for huge IGF-1 releases.

 

[TSizemore]

TIMING

As described above, the body produces HGH is a pulsatile fashion throughout the day with the heaviest pulses occurring approximately 2 hours or so after going to bed and as you fall into a deep sleep. Injectible HGH is completely absorbed and put to use within approximately 3 hours. The strategy with respect to timing depends somewhat on our age and the other elements of our cycle. As you will see below, there is no single best strategy � it depends a lot on your individual situation.

For those that are between their late 20�s and early 50�s, there is still a reasonable chance that your own endogenous production of HGH is at a reasonable level. The best time to take and injection, this being the case, would be early morning �. After your body�s own release of HGH in the night. If you get up to go to the bathroom in the early morning (3 -5am), this is probably the perfect time to take a couple of units of HGH. This will be the least disruptive time to take an injection of HGH. The second best time would be first thing in the morning when you wake up.

If you are splitting your doses, the two times of the day when your cortisol levels are at peak are when you wake up and in the early afternoon. This being the case, another good strategy is to take your HGH injections at these times. Cortisol is very catabolic by nature and a well -timed HGH injection can go a long way toward blunting this effect.
If you are in your late 50�s or beyond, or if for some reason you have a condition that has rendered your pituitary incapable of a normal release of HGH, a great time to take HGH is right before bed. This allows you to closely mimic the natural pattern that would occur if your pituitary were functioning properly. For the rest of us, taking your HGH right before bed is going to end up creating a negative feedback loop, robbing you of your body�s own nightly pulse of HGH. While the jury is still out (conflicting studies) as to the absolute nature of the negative feedback time, it is clear that the closer we push our injection to the time our body is ready to give us its biggest pulses of HGH, we are going to end up derailing our own triggers and secretion.

Yet another strategy should be considered if you are using insulin with your HGH. Insulin should be used immediately post workout. HGH and insulin do some great things together � they shuttle nutrients in a very complimentary way with each other, and the combination of HGH and Insulin create the best environment for IGF-1 production from the liver. If you are using insulin immediately post workout, taking a few IU�s of HGH pre-workout will allow HGH to offer all of its fat mobilizing effects while getting your HGH and Insulin to the liver at about the right time for huge IGF-1 releases.

This is the best strategy for just about all of us! You can do pre or post work-out, your choice. I do Pre workout, since it's usually about 7pm or so when I get out of the gym and I eat Immediately upon walking out the doors of the gym. If I wait 45min after that to do the injection, it gets to late and would mess with the timing.

 

[Hanzo]

Most people use GHRP-6 and GHRP-2 in the afternoon.

 

[TSizemore]

Most people use GHRP-6 and GHRP-2 in the afternoon.

Now you're really gonna confuse him!!! 😉

 

[vrod2002]

Shit.I'm confused. 😛

 

[Hanzo]

Now you're really gonna confuse him!!! 😉

OK then, GHRP-6 to bulk and GHRP-2 to cut. Remember to run 5on/2off with the GH. Have your buddy get 29g slin pins and just stick it in his gut, either side of belly button. Some people try the standard subq of pinching a bit of skin and running it as close as to the surface of the skin as possible. I say forget that. I've always had success with just pinning in aforementioned area.

 

[vrod2002]

Just a note.. if you get red welts that last.for.days. then your probably getting allergic.reaction .. I was allergic to kiefers..had to switch

 

[TSizemore]

Just a note.. if you get red welts that last.for.days. then your probably getting allergic.reaction .. I was allergic to kiefers..had to switch

OK then, GHRP-6 to bulk and GHRP-2 to cut. Remember to run 5on/2off with the GH. Have your buddy get 29g slin pins and just stick it in his gut, either side of belly button. Some people try the standard subq of pinching a bit of skin and running it as close as to the surface of the skin as possible. I say forget that. I've always had success with just pinning in aforementioned area.

Vrod....you're not allergic to Kefei's. You might be allergic to the 192aa chain. Not all Kefei's are 192aa. I use MuscleBooster's Kefei and they are all 191aa.
Hanzo....there is absolutely no basis for "Having" to split your GH dose 5on and 2off. The entire reason this schedule was ever started was purely for monetary purposes. There is no scientific evidence your body requires any kind of GH break. It's just cheaper and makes the GH last longer if you break it up, that's all. If you want to run GH straight through without breaks that is perfectly safe.

 

[vrod2002]

TSizemore. Mayben your correct. But. I was using Muscle boosters Kefeis. He.offered to switch them out.. which was a stand up move on him..

 

[TSizemore]

TSizemore. Mayben your correct. But. I was using Muscle boosters Kefeis. He.offered to switch them out.. which was a stand up move on him..

Yea, he's a stand up guy. That's weird on the Kefei's....I pin IM with his Kefei's pretty much solely.

 

[vrod2002]

Yea...pinned SQ. Different areas...took.benadryl... nada..tried.Different.times.of the day .. changed BAC Water. Needles...same.results..big.welts. .. then.switched to IM..issue resolved

 

[TSizemore]

Yea...pinned SQ. Different areas...took.benadryl... nada..tried.Different.times.of the day .. changed BAC Water. Needles...same.results..big.welts. .. then.switched to IM..issue resolved

Good..IM is really the way to go. You stuck with the Kefei's then?

 

[vrod2002]

Yes stuck with them for 4 months. Took holiday break. Starting to miss the feel of.being. GH.. will.start up again.soon... uncle.sam.owes.me.$$.😉

 

[RockShawn]

It's that one extra effing amino acid. Curse you extra amino acid.

I just did a trade on some kefies for a buddy of mine here and told him don't even try sub q, only IM.

 

[Hanzo]

Hanzo....there is absolutely no basis for "Having" to split your GH dose 5on and 2off. The entire reason this schedule was ever started was purely for monetary purposes. There is no scientific evidence your body requires any kind of GH break. It's just cheaper and makes the GH last longer if you break it up, that's all. If you want to run GH straight through without breaks that is perfectly safe.

For a normal cycle of 5-8 months in length, injecting once or twice a day, 7 days a week should be fine. While there are studies that suggest that the suppression from exogenous hGH is short lived (about 4 hours from injection), there are no large-scale studies to indicate safety of everyday injections in long-term use. There are studies by anti-aging groups demonstrating that a day or two off per week is adequate to protect the pituitary and its triggers over long cycles. If your use of hGH becomes more a lifestyle than a single cycle, I would consider running it 5 on/2 off, or 6 on/ 1 off until such time as we have reliable data demonstrating long-term safety sans any degradation of your own output or the triggers initiating that output.

Another option would be to run your hGH cycle everyday for the first two months to get your IGF-1 levels elevated quickly and to a level to assist you in an anabolic way, then drop back to 5 days a week or only inject Mon-Wed-Fri and take the weekends off.

That was from HGH Medical Clinic. I think most of the worry is long term effects.

 

[TSizemore]

For a normal cycle of 5-8 months in length, injecting once or twice a day, 7 days a week should be fine. While there are studies that suggest that the suppression from exogenous hGH is short lived (about 4 hours from injection), there are no large-scale studies to indicate safety of everyday injections in long-term use. There are studies by anti-aging groups demonstrating that a day or two off per week is adequate to protect the pituitary and its triggers over long cycles. If your use of hGH becomes more a lifestyle than a single cycle, I would consider running it 5 on/2 off, or 6 on/ 1 off until such time as we have reliable data demonstrating long-term safety sans any degradation of your own output or the triggers initiating that output.

Another option would be to run your hGH cycle everyday for the first two months to get your IGF-1 levels elevated quickly and to a level to assist you in an anabolic way, then drop back to 5 days a week or only inject Mon-Wed-Fri and take the weekends off.

That was from HGH Medical Clinic. I think most of the worry is long term effects.

This is all based on low dosages....of course. Probably should clarify that. 4on and 1off is what I used to do. Now, I roll with it. Take a day off here or an afternoon off there.

 

[RockShawn]

What does "OFF" mean? HAHA

 

[Hanzo]

This is all based on low dosages....of course. Probably should clarify that. 4on and 1off is what I used to do. Now, I roll with it. Take a day off here or an afternoon off there.

They actually had a chart that rated sides and gave dose schedules for over 10iu's/day. I'll try to find it for you again, it was a thought provoking read if nothing else.

 

[BIgJ]

Stuff to damn expensive to waste