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[R2D2]

Occam's razor. is it more likely that everything is a conspiracy or not? I blame the internet, social media, and lack of critical thinking skills/the ability to do research online for all of the disinformation that is out there?

 

[Thor]

GUILLAIN-BARRE actually can be caused by the flu itself , but it is a possible side effect.

That vaccine added just 1 out of 100,000 increase according to studies but saved far more lives

The Public Health Legacy of the 1976 Swine Flu Outbreak

Is it responsible for some Americans' hesitancy to embrace vaccines?

www.discovermagazine.com

In 1976 there was a small increased risk of GBS following vaccination with an influenza vaccine made to protect against a swine flu virus. The increased risk was approximately 1 additional case of GBS per 100,000 people who got the swine flu vaccine. The Institute of Medicine (IOM) conducted a thorough scientific review of this issue in 2003 and concluded that people who received the 1976 swine influenza vaccine had an increased risk for developing GBS. Scientists have multiple theories on why this increased risk may have occurred, but the exact reason for this association remains unknown.

It is important to keep in mind that severe illness and death are associated with influenza, and vaccination is the best way to prevent influenza infection and its complications.

Guillain-Barré syndrome and Flu Vaccine | CDC

Overview of Guillain Barre Sydrome GBS, what causes it, and who is at risk of developing the disorder - CDC

www.cdc.gov

There are many reports out about all that happened as I have found a lot that conflict with each other and they all tell a different story but yes vaccines have saved a lot of lives, it should be up to an individual to decide if they want a vaccine or not.

 

[Thor]

Polio, small pox, measles. I’m sure 99% of us got that. M and M’s are made by MARS, talk about big business.

Yep MAR's has a monopoly going on....lol but they are good, anything chocolate.

 

[Thor]

Occam's razor. is it more likely that everything is a conspiracy or not? I blame the internet, social media, and lack of critical thinking skills/the ability to do research online for all of the disinformation that is out there?

There have been so many lies from every media outfit that it is hard to believe anything you hear anymore and then when you research you also get many different stories concerning the same issues.

December 3, 2020

Renowned scientist tells Laura Ingraham the COVID-19 vaccine is 'downright dangerous' and will send you 'to your doom'​

By Peter Barry Chowka
On Wednesday, The Ingraham Angle on the Fox News channel broadcast a mind-boggling live interview with a world-renowned microbiologist who said the "looming" COVID-19 vaccine is "downright dangerous" and will send you "to your doom." The expert, Sucharit Bhakdi, M.D., speaking on a Skype video link from his home in Germany, also said this:

Laura Ingraham, Fox News channel host: On the social distancing and the mask, just to focus on that for a moment, which of those two in your research and your work has been the most displaced?
Dr. Sucharit Bhakdi: Both.
Ingram: Both. Not backed up by the science.
Bhakdi: Zero science.

Bhakdi is the co-author of Corona: False Alarm?, a massive bestseller in Germany that was published in English here on October 2. The book is currently the #1 bestseller in the Amazon categories of Microbiology, Pulmonary Medicine, and Health Law. It has a 4.8 out of 5 rating after 363 ratings.

Screenshot, The Ingraham Angle, Fox News Channel, Dec. 2, 2020.​

In response to Ingraham's question of why these methods — including masks and social distancing — are being "pushed," Bhakdi elaborated:

This is something that we — and when I say "we" — hundreds and thousands of people are standing up to say to say "please, all of you, sit down and think about this. Read about this and then make up your own mind. Don't believe things that people are telling you. Think for yourself and come to you own conclusions." That is why we wrote this book, because all the arguments saying — telling you why, what you are doing is absolutely nonsense.

According to his online bio:

Sucharit Bhakdi was born in Washington, D.C., and educated at schools in Switzerland, Egypt, and Thailand. He studied medicine at the University of Bonn in Germany, where he received his MD in 1970. He was a post-doctoral researcher at the Max Planck Institute of Immunobiology and Epigenetics in Freiburg from 1972 to 1976, and at The Protein Laboratory in Copenhagen from 1976 to 1977. He joined the Institute of Medical Microbiology at Giessen University in 1977 and was appointed associate professor in 1982. He was named chair of Medical Microbiology at the University of Mainz in 1990, where he remained until his retirement in 2012. Dr. Bhakdi has published over three hundred articles in the fields of immunology, bacteriology, virology, and parasitology, for which he has received numerous awards and the Order of Merit of Rhineland-Palatinate.

In his interview with Ingraham, Bhakdi described as "utter nonsense" Dr. Anthony Fauci's claim earlier Wednesday during a live interview on The Story with Martha MacCallum on the Fox News Channel that 75% of Americans would need to be vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to achieve herd immunity. Bhakdi added, "Someone who says this has not the slightest inkling of the basics of immunology."
In response to Ingraham's final question, "So you think the COVID-19 vaccine is unnecessary?" Bhakdi replied: "I think it's downright dangerous. And I warn you, if you go along these lines, you are going to go to your doom" (emphasis added).
At that point, Ingraham ran out of time but promised to have Dr. Bhakdi back on her program.
The only video of the segment available at press time was a clip, complete except for Ingraham's closing comments, posted by Media Matters for America.

 

[GRIM]

There are many reports out about all that happened as I have found a lot that conflict with each other and they all tell a different story but yes vaccines have saved a lot of lives, it should be up to an individual to decide if they want a vaccine or not.

For the most part I agree on individual choice I wont be getting it.
There however are exceptions, children etc,

 

[Thor]

For the most part I agree on individual choice I wont be getting it.
There however are exceptions, children etc,

Going back over more reports I see where the GBS was a very small % but some people would die from adverse reactions and I agree that we do need the past vaccines that have been created but in the case of the covid vaccines I am not willing to see if me or my wife will be the next to get the short end of the stick. To the families of the people who died or came down with the diseases in the past was it worth it, not to them and their families and the vaccination of children should be up to the parent not the gov't.

I am done with the issue of viruses and vaccination 😉.
Well everyone has to make their own choice until that right is taken away, so good luck to everyone and I hope all of us make it through this unscathed.

 

[Jinko]

Several hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccine have been produced. Hundreds of millions. A scientist/doctor claims "we are doomed" if we take it. He presents no data, facts, or evidence due to a lack of time. But if buy his book he will tell you. The network he is on at that time slot is the most-watched show on TV. They only give two minutes to the man that could save hundreds of millions of people from doom. Two minutes, hundreds of millions of lives are doomed. You have a duty to prevent this. Well, when you get sued and your defense in court is we are entertainment not news, and your own network list you has entertainment not news, guess it's to be expected.

 

[Torres]

Listen , this person saids this, that person saids that, what do we say , do you say???
He is right about one thing , we have to learn to think for ourselves!!! As Adults, we can do what’s called critical thinking. Take information from different areas, sources, places , and with that , come to our own conclusions. Remember when we were teenagers, and we couldn’t wait to be 21 so that we could think and answer for ourselves and not be told what to do. WTF happened to that ??? Millions of “ adults “ eyes glued to their TV, ears open to the radios, other people, reading newspaper , article after article and everything is DIFFERENT.
Think For Yourself!!!
If you want to wear the mask , go ahead.
If you want to take the vaccine , do it . But if you don’t , fuck it , Don’t!!!
All this Social media and people acting like sheep , is our real “ Doom “ . Nobody thinks for themselves anymore , they crave and yearn to be told what to do. Makes me sick bro’s .
Remember the saying , “ Be Leaders Not Followers “ WTF HAPPENED TO THAT SHIT !!!
I dont know about ya , but I’m going to do what I need to do to keep my son safe , and I’m going to do it by thinking for myself and not following the masses of zombies social media has created.
Damn I can go on and on !!!

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

My bad. Got mixed up. Flu like symptoms . Thought the article said was the flu.

Bottom line., the damn thing only has a less than. < 1% fatality rate.
They're blowing all this shit out of proportion,, and downright lying to the masses, it's what they want ( Leftists, Global Elitist's ) to create Mass hysteria & fright. Way more than meets the eye, I know, but I believe soon ( And the Country/ World will be shocked ) alot will probably still be in denial & believe everything shoved down our throats.

And yes...! We all need to be Free thinkers, I most certainly won't be getting, nor am I worried one bit about these alledged mutations.

My 02¢ , MotorCity Out..!

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

No one seems to really know, we are told to wear masks and than you see articles and news saying masks don't really help so I guess you would need a re-breather or any system that would allow you to breath fresh oxygen from a tank lol. Shit who knows since it is fairly new, changing and mutating over a short period of time.

There's also some very good info out on UV ( artificial ) "and" Sunlight that nearly eradicates this COv-19 nonsense, not sure about the alledged new one however. We are certainly "The Monkey in the Middle" on all this craziness.

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

I am right there with you E bro, I don't trust what I think they are showing or telling us as it is to easy to manipulate any situation visually or verbally. We have been shown this past year that they are trying to bring socialism in and it astonishes me that a lot of people still can't see and grasp what is really going on. Who do people think are going to pay for the free college or community college, free insurance and other so called benefits some people may get??? It is the average worker, me and you that will have our taxes raised even more and won't be able to afford shit anymore. The writing is on the wall and has been for some time now. No vaccine for me but they will use it in the work place, if you don't take it you don't work and since my wife works in the medical field it is mandatory, she may have to look at other career options..??

Ed Zachery....!

 

[Youngtricep98]

The problem is everyone takes the damn PCR test. It’s a flawed test and when cycled any more than 20 times you’re going to find some trace of a coronavirus. It doesn’t tell you you’re sick, it tells you if you’ve had a coronavirus.
Conveniently the guy who created this test died right before the pandemic. But he’s on record talking about the test and how it shouldn’t be relied upon.

 

[MotorCityMuscleMachine]

We have people from both sides taking the vaccine on TV. The funny thing is three of those people swore the virus is no big deal, yet cut the line to take the vaccine. We can play the silly fuck fuck game all day. I don't know what was in the vial. Any more than we know what's in a pack of M and M's or any other manufactured item. Like the gear we use. We trust some nameless faceless person using Chinese raws. The same country that deliberately added toxins to baby formula. We justify it every which way and commit felonies to get it. Laws are stupid, it won't hurt, it's clean gear on and on.

What vaccine was rushed that caused problems? The last one I know of was almost 50 years ago. Ever go on a bad date? Stop dating? Metrics are set for all vaccines. The fact that you get there faster doesn't mean you did wrong. I think we've all had projects or tests that we did quicker than other people. And did them correctly. If you meet the metrics what's the big deal how fast you do it? Rember when we celebrated success? We shook its hand, patted it on the back, hugged it, looked up to it, want to be part of it. Thank goodness this level of misinformation wasn't around years ago. We ever would have a polio vaccine, smallpox, measles, and so on. Diseases cross from animal to man frequently. West Nile, Rabies, Lyme, syphilis, the list is nearly endless.

A lot of people across the world have died. I don't understand the lack of compassion. It cost nothing to be compassionate. The dismissiveness cost us our dignity and humanity.

The conspiracy stuff used to be silly. Now it's something worse. It becomes predictable and boring. It is so damn boring.

Very Well Spoken Sir. !

MotorCity