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The Crash, Part 2

We all know the stuff your using is junk. If you want to post it or not is up to you. You are most definitely missing something. If you posted who's product you are using you may or may not prevent people from purchasing junk. Yes I have bought products from a lab that I know one of their items was shit. Their viagra was garbage but their Tren was top shelf. Again, people are not going to stop using a lab just because it gets one bad review. There would be no labs open 😉
 
The whole point of a review, rather it good or bad , is to say how your experience with the lab was. Imo you should say who the lab is that you got the crap gear from. How useful would the vendor threads be if everyone did the same thing as you and complained about nothing even though the gear is junk
 
tkasch30 said:
The whole point of a review, rather it good or bad , is to say how your experience with the lab was. Imo you should say who the lab is that you got the crap gear from. How useful would the vendor threads be if everyone did the same thing as you and complained about nothing even though the gear is junk

Thanks but I wasn't giving a review. I posted this under Cycles, to have vets look at my cycle and my blood work to see if I was missing something.
 
T-bar said:
Thanks but I wasn't giving a review. I posted this under Cycles, to have vets look at my cycle and my blood work to see if I was missing something.

I think you got your bases covered brother. Sometimes you just have to go with your gut also. I've seen a lot of guys keep using stuff that was not very good just because it once was or they just did not believe they were duped. About a year ago I purchased some test from a vendor no longer around. I was on a cruise and taking 300mgs a week. About three weeks into my cruise I noticed my gains diminished, I was gaining fat easier than normal. I was starting to regress to a "normal" state. I had a hunch it was the test. I was doing everything else right. I did not want to admit to myself I may have some shitty gear. In my gut I knew it was the test. About 5 weeks in I said fuck it and switched to another vendors and within three weeks I was able to tell things were turning around. The kicker, two months later a bunch of guys came out saying the labs stuff was underdosed or complete junk. A month after that the lab closed. I had no tests done but I know how my body looks and reacts on certain compounds.


I get why you are covering your bases but don't look to hard man.
 
I hear ya brother. I believe this supplier is a decent guy and probably got ripped off himself, but I did find a place that will do the test for $200 just in case. That being said, I think we've beaten this horse to death. I've been in this game for over 20 years so I know my diet, my workout, my cycle results... After running it past the rest of you just to make sure I wasn't nuts, I think it's more than clear what's going on.

As much as it pisses me off I just need to chalk up the past month to a waste of time, energy and money. And then I need to start a new cycle and move forward.

Thanks for all the input!
 
Well, I guess you got your answer.
I'm of the opinion myself that you should have all your ducks in a row before you ever release the "bunk gear" bomb in the public. Always give the Vendor a chance to be informed first, and if he doesn't respond, then it's time to look to the body for help. But, in the same token, I think there are definite indicators that let you know what's going on, or NOT going on in this case, which tells you when it's time to accept the obvious conclusion. Blood levels look fine, Estrogen is where it should be for a normal man, and Test is where it should be for a normal man. I don't remember seeing your liver enzymes (by the time I got through this thread) so I don't know if they were elevated or not. But chances are they are not.

I've known you long enough to know, that if you're not on Arimidex or Aromasin and you Estrogen is normal.....something ain't right. 😉
 
TSizemore said:
I've known you long enough to know, that if you're not on Arimidex or Aromasin and you Estrogen is normal.....something ain't right. 😉

No doubt!!!! At this point without Adex my boobs would be so big you'd consider leaving that hot wife of yours. LOL
 

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