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Hanzo said:That's why I said IMO, AJ. I couldn't be a competitive BB'er if I wanted, don't have the genetics. I'll stick with being a fighter. ;D
ajordana said:Hahah I gotcha man, just spreading wisdom from oz 😛 yeah for the average gym rat or fighters in your instance or anything like that, even in sports, that high test is useless. Only helpful in reaching inhuman muscularity or strength in some individuals. Aka genetic freaks and people who have REALLY put in the time and work, or are still in the process.
ajordana said:higher test definitely will yield better results in overall mass, if things are done right. Those at high levels will say that higher test is needed at higher weight classes and to maintain that size, and even to stay looking full for those who have problems in that area. Not necessary for all or even anyone unless they're at or heading for a higher level, but its definitely not a waste if used correctlyNothing has ever been shown to prove hgh utilizes more test. The myth that high test REQUIRES HGH to not be wasted is definitely a myth. Higher test will produce more results regardless. Now, if the benefits outweigh the sides that the individual encounters is entirely up to them. You will see more gains on high test with hgh than without, but that's most likely simply because you're adding HGH, not necessarily that the test is being utilized more efficiently. Now, no one can necessarily disprove it, but HGH and testosterone are entirely different hormones working through entirely different pathways. But, that being said, you will still have excellent gains with 1.5g test and HGH, although with the stats you could definitely do damage on much less test.
4everstrong said:How much test do you suggest?
GRIM said:in time I 'might' go into those doses BUT such a long journey before that..
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