WU

[Dago]

I guess I could just call and ask but I had a couple more questions they cannot answer. First don't they charge like 15 bucks for every 50 you send ? Second you guys feel safe using WU ? I prefer vanilla or some type of money pack. I know this is getting to be a problem like with gd keeping guys money who look out for us. But like I spent 500 in gear this week if ida sent that western union if what I said is true woulda been a lot more ?

 

[Vino 1]

Western union sucks. I never use them. They charge way too much to send money. The more u send the more they charge. I don't feel safe using them personally

 

[GRIM]

Fees are like the wild west in my experience with WU.

 

[BIGBOSS]

I guess I could just call and ask but I had a couple more questions they cannot answer. First don't they charge like 15 bucks for every 50 you send ? Second you guys feel safe using WU ? I prefer vanilla or some type of money pack. I know this is getting to be a problem like with gd keeping guys money who look out for us. But like I spent 500 in gear this week if ida sent that western union if what I said is true woulda been a lot more ?

The service charge goes up every time 50 or 100 dollar increments bro. Here is the link to the site
so you an get an idea of what I mean. The prices are crazy mane!

http://www.westernunion.com/sites/us/send-money/send-money.page

 

[Dago]

Reason I ask is because I wanted to try that blend the private source has for 275 and grab some of those 50ml jugs but I only see WU as the payment option unless I'm looking over it ?

 

[erikgearhead]

GD steals large amounts of money from a source. (I've had over $4k stolen from me by that damn company)
Vanilla has not started doing this...YET.

WU fees small amounts of money from a customer to send their transfer($15-50 is small). It has nothing to do with being safe. WU vs GD/moneypak really is a wash in terms of safety. You can use fake names, fake phone numbers, etc with WU. The thing that will get you is the cameras in the store and outside whether you use WU, GD, Vanilla, ETC. You can't escape them anywhere... If they really want you, they'll get you...whoever you are. Source or customer.

So in my opinion, if you have the choice between accepting GD and WU as a source, I personally am going to tell you that you can't use GD. If you want to squabble over $15 then you dont deserve to use our services since we risk so much to offer them to you.


That's reasonable to say the least. And if you don't think so, then go find your local guy in the gym and buy test for $100 a bottle.

yeah i've had a few to drink tonight, but this is pure honesty.



Bitcoin looks promising as the future preferred payment method in this market, and it's gaining popularity everywhere...but most people aren't willing to learn how to use it to complete a transaction. Western union is simple, and expensive. GD is really not a reasonable payment method anymore for most situations due to how fast they close cards and often close them with out a refund (all funds loaded are confiscated), but vanilla is OK for the time being. You never know how long that method will last, though.

Remember guys, this is illegal business. This is not the place to penny pinch- that's when you GET pinched. Until the "war on drugs" is ended, this is how it's gonna be unfortunately.

Just as an example,

Accepting GD raises my prices a LOT but costs you less to send and is convenient. It is much, much more risk on my end of losing money after the transaction is finished.

Accepting WU lowers my prices but costs you more to send. It is zero risk on my end of losing money after the transaction is made.



Food for thought, guys. Any other sources please feel free to chime in as I am sure there are other valid viewpoints and things I'm not considering here.

 

[Akhusker]

You can always do the wait 3 days thing with WU and it cost much less. The source as well as you would have to wait 3 days to pick up the funds but it's like 75% cheaper

 

[TheMuscleMan]

I think erik hit it on the head. I have lost money with GD too. I have had netspend almost take money from me also and it was a major PITA. It will only last so long with vanilla before they follow in the line with the rest of those cards. WU and MG might cost more but all in all it works out for everyone in the end. CIM is still a good way to go, adds a couple days onto the total T/A from start to finish but funds are guaranteed and can be anonymous.

 

[JACKED]

omg!!!! its 15 dollar !!!
like eric said...buy it for $100 or buy it for $30 plus 15 for shipping and ok...15 wu thats only 60 dollar shipped to your door step!!!! that is still way cheaper then the gym rats and you dont even have to drive it home. lol
some of these sponsors have the best damn prices i have EVER seen...

 

[jshredz]

I think we can all agree that we all hate western union. But we have to understand that the sponsors need to look out for themselves as well.
I prefer vanilla and CIM but it's only a matter of time before vanilla is a no go.

 

[RockShawn]

This is a good discussion and JACKED is right on the money. We bitch about it but shouldn't.

I wanna research the 3 day a little. If they count weekends what would be the problem with doing the WU on Friday and funds get picked up Monday/Tuesday however they count the days. Can't ship on Sunday anyways and Saturday shipping is starting to go away too so you don't lose any time really. Just a thought.

 

[JM750]

It depends where you are sending your money. When I get stuff from Thailand, you can only do money in minutes this means a large WU fee. It sucks, but is all part of the game. If you buy International a lot like I do, then you are stuck using WU or moneygram. Intl orders does not use green dot. A 15$ WU is considered in my book "getting off easy"

 

[RockShawn]

WU has a tool to help you estimate the fees. In person 3day doesn't seem to trim too much off the price. The optiuons tied to your bank account are the cheapest.

https://www.westernunion.com/price-estimator/start?REF_ID=SP1A-EQQG-Y9SK-M8BQ-SXKX-IHBB-VOMC-6GKL&4

 

[lith56bigguy]

GD steals large amounts of money from a source. (I've had over $4k stolen from me by that damn company)
Vanilla has not started doing this...YET.

WU fees small amounts of money from a customer to send their transfer($15-50 is small). It has nothing to do with being safe. WU vs GD/moneypak really is a wash in terms of safety. You can use fake names, fake phone numbers, etc with WU. The thing that will get you is the cameras in the store and outside whether you use WU, GD, Vanilla, ETC. You can't escape them anywhere... If they really want you, they'll get you...whoever you are. Source or customer.

So in my opinion, if you have the choice between accepting GD and WU as a source, I personally am going to tell you that you can't use GD. If you want to squabble over $15 then you dont deserve to use our services since we risk so much to offer them to you.


That's reasonable to say the least. And if you don't think so, then go find your local guy in the gym and buy test for $100 a bottle.

yeah i've had a few to drink tonight, but this is pure honesty.



Bitcoin looks promising as the future preferred payment method in this market, and it's gaining popularity everywhere...but most people aren't willing to learn how to use it to complete a transaction. Western union is simple, and expensive. GD is really not a reasonable payment method anymore for most situations due to how fast they close cards and often close them with out a refund (all funds loaded are confiscated), but vanilla is OK for the time being. You never know how long that method will last, though.

Remember guys, this is illegal business. This is not the place to penny pinch- that's when you GET pinched. Until the "war on drugs" is ended, this is how it's gonna be unfortunately.

Just as an example,

Accepting GD raises my prices a LOT but costs you less to send and is convenient. It is much, much more risk on my end of losing money after the transaction is finished.

Accepting WU lowers my prices but costs you more to send. It is zero risk on my end of losing money after the transaction is made.



Food for thought, guys. Any other sources please feel free to chime in as I am sure there are other valid viewpoints and things I'm not considering here.

Eric.... I'd never say a word about 15 bucks and I totally appreciate your honesty. I used to order from a source that charged $14 bucks International... IT was awesome then went to another and WU domestic was $70 dollars for a smaller order. This is what gets me..... I just want us all to be happy and safe, etc. Our sponsors are top notch on this board, I don't believe anyone wants to create any waves. WU is a total pai in the ass where I come from you have to do it on the phone at a Walmart etc and you never get an English speaking rep.

 

[krustus]

i clicked rocks link and the prices there are really good in my opinion.... is it safe to send through the website or better at a store location?

last time at the store the fees were a lot higher than shown on the site... or do i have to request the 3 day method for the lower prices?

 

[Wacker]

i clicked rocks link and the prices there are really good in my opinion.... is it safe to send through the website or better at a store location?

last time at the store the fees were a lot higher than shown on the site... or do i have to request the 3 day method for the lower prices?

I tried the online and never finished because I couldn't get the no ID required box to come up. It would let me input a password for pick up but says that over $300 requires ID? Has anyone used this? It would be a great option if I could do it from home!

 

[RockShawn]

there are online options if you are willing. They are all safe and secure through WU. It's just do you want the transaction tied to your account. Remember, they cannot ask you what it is for or really even who it is for. You are sending money to your friend who needs it. that's it. international, if they ask, I casually say it's for a missionary friend. Never say it is to purchase something!

 

[RockShawn]

I tried the online and never finished because I couldn't get the no ID required box to come up. It would let me input a password for pick up but says that over $300 requires ID? Has anyone used this? It would be a great option if I could do it from home!

Forgot about the ID thing and the test question. Hmmm. the ones I deal with on WU have fake IDs and so I don't deal with the test question much. No you cannot do the test question online or on the phone app as far as I know. I tried that once a long time ago and it was an expensive lesson to learn.

 

[Aventia]

Eric is 100% correct GD and Vanilla is effortless for the consumer but a HUGH RISK for the vendor. When I re-open I might not have Vanilla as a payment option.

Aa

 

[Dago]

I started this thread and wasn't bitching about anything guys. I was simply asking if what I was told is correct if I do decide to use WU doea it in fact cost 15 dollars for every 50 I send. So if I spend 500 with a source that would cost me 150 to send 500 correct ? Also just wondered if guys feel safe with this procedure as I've never done it this way. I try to get one good source and stick with them. For years I just sent paypal from my account to my dudes account with the click of the mouse but those days are over he has since retired. I appreciate eg and all you guys. Was just curious about WU and how they operate that's all