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Idk I guess I remember reading quite a few somewhat bad reviews. However they are always on TA or packaging. Gear reviews themselves are never addressed, people always say they will review but they don't because time catches up with them. I have however seen bad reviews on some old sources and they ended leaving so I guess it worked itself out, usually a few guys get burned in the end, but it does work out because they aren't here anymore.

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Now with TMM, he has been here for a Very long time and we haven't heard really any complaints about his stuff, I did see one guy talk about his cialis being weak a few years back and I've had a few guys tell me in PM his gear can sometimes be weak but myself I've never had anyone tell me in my crew anything was bad, but I only get his oils.

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With Pacific, he is new and I'm running his test c and it's pretty damn good, he made a stupid mistake and addressed it in another board, we know about it here and he said he is making it right so I don't see any foul there, at least he is going to do something instead of saying the buyers are full of shit, he gave his reasons and I think that's very honest and good. Although the guys at FG don't have this on their board.

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HT... i guess afraid is not the right word... getting banned doesn't happen easily around here... i just avoid internet drama.. i feel ridiculous in a fight with someone on the internet...lol...

and on another point... i still think EG is the best... pretty much the only board i am on.. just giving an opinion. it's Grim's baby to run as he sees fit... just felt like i had to speak up in this case as this was something that is really important in my opinion... the quality of goods sold here
 
HT and LT you guys do it the right way. Talk to the guys you know and trust behind the scenes to get the real story on a source. Alot of reviews just say I got my gear, labels look good. Lol or even worse the guy got free gear to run a log. Know one is going to say the free gear they got wasn't that good. Lol. And as you know by looking at logs, free gear produces unreal results every time. Lol. The real story of every source is out there but not in the reviews threads.
 
grim said:
Reviews are wanted good or bad. This incident however user was caught in a lie to me and tmm did send money back. Kinda hard to the the buyers side in such a case. The incident however is not over as far as dosing goes but again I'm in hospital and can't really do anything atm
grim
You know I've kept my word and let this drop even when members continued bashing me, but now it's the board owner that's bashing me. It is incredibly unfair to claim that someone is caught in a lie when both sides send you emails and PM's proving what they say, and you simply choose to believe one side and call the other a lie. I have no issue with a board owner going with a paying sponsor over a new member. At the end of the day this is a business and the board needs to stay alive. But it is incredibly wrong to label me as a liar simply because you've decided to accept the word of the sponsor and the "evidence" he sends you over the evidence I sent.

Why can't you let this go the way you've asked the rest of us to do without continuing to drag my name through the mud. I don't see this as helping anyone feel comfortable reporting problems they might have.
 
HybridTheory said:
I think you guys are underestimating power of word of mouth.Not only do you get banned on other forums,but you get your pm's read and if you speak against anyone on their team you are gone.I have received plenty of Pm's here telling me not to mess with certain labs.This shit with TMM being underdosed,yeah,I with alot of people have heard that claim.You want a bottle of dbol for 20 bucks and a 100 dollar minimum,you may not get the strongest stuff in the game,but youll get it.
The first guy to tell me that wasnt even on this board,I mean what a shock,Ive never been ripped off,because I listen to the guys here,never had bad gear because these new guys that pop up that arent egh and dyel I always view with skepticism till they have been around for at least a year or so. You guys that wanna roll the dice,by all means,and report back to us so people like me dont get ripped off or get bad gear........I have just had nothing to speak up about,but if I felt the NEED to speak up I dont fear being banned or paraded by other members.I would not hesitate to tell anyone trying to quiet me to get fucked and not worry about getting banned. I don't know where all this is coming from,but if you are ever afraid to say something message me,and I'll say something for you.I have no problem addressing a vendor directly.
HybridTheory
HT, I got nothing but respect for you for that post a few posts above.
 
Tbar I want it dropped I however am only stating facts.
I'm not going after anyone.
Has nothing to do with paid or not
 
I DROPPED IT!!!! YOU keep bringing it back up! And you aren't stating facts you are stating opinion as facts and then demanding I drop it while allowing others to continue bashing me the way you are.

I DROPPED IT!
 
Akhusker said:
Now with TMM, he has been here for a Very long time and we haven't heard really any complaints about his stuff, I did see one guy talk about his cialis being weak a few years back and I've had a few guys tell me in PM his gear can sometimes be weak but myself I've never had anyone tell me in my crew anything was bad, but I only get his oils.

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Akhusker
Was the claim of the weak Cialis on this board? Was it in a post, thread or just shout box talk? I only ask because I don't recall anyone saying anything about our products, the only thing I know that was a problem in the beginning was the labels, we weren't having them designed for us back then and we addressed that and found someone who makes them and had them designed for us, other than that we haven't had anything negative said about us.

Thanks
TMM
 
TheMuscleMan said:
Was the claim of the weak Cialis on this board? Was it in a post, thread or just shout box talk? I only ask because I don't recall anyone saying anything about our products, the only thing I know that was a problem in the beginning was the labels, we weren't having them designed for us back then and we addressed that and found someone who makes them and had them designed for us, other than that we haven't had anything negative said about us.

Thanks
TMM
TheMuscleManIt was in a thread, someone was looking for some cialis and gave their reviews on the products he tried on the board. Like I said, I personally haven't had any issues with your stuff, except for some sust that crashed right when I got it, but it was the sust you had before you had it on your list and all I did was reheat it and it was fine, pinned it myself. I have some of your cialis now, don't run it myself but I've given it to a few guys and they didn't say anything about it. So can't really give any feed back. I'll try it out for a few weeks and post on it if you'd like, I've had it for quite some time. Had a few guys run your var and they like it. To prove to everyone your stuff is on point you can always get it tested by anoboliv labs, that would shut everyone up if it came back on point.

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Akhusker said:
It was in a thread, someone was looking for some cialis and gave their reviews on the products he tried on the board. Like I said, I personally haven't had any issues with your stuff, except for some sust that crashed right when I got it, but it was the sust you had before you had it on your list and all I did was reheat it and it was fine, pinned it myself. I have some of your cialis now, don't run it myself but I've given it to a few guys and they didn't say anything about it. So can't really give any feed back. I'll try it out for a few weeks and post on it if you'd like, I've had it for quite some time. Had a few guys run your var and they like it. To prove to everyone your stuff is on point you can always get it tested by anoboliv labs, that would shut everyone up if it came back on point.

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Akhusker
I will go back through the threads and see bro. I don't recall it and nobody ever told us about it or we would have checked into it right away. The sust will crash in low temps so it could have been the time of year it was ordered. We try to make sure it wont crash but the cold times of the year make it difficult sometimes and some can crash in lower temps.

This anoboliv labs, I have never heard of but I will check them out. Ever since srcs stopped doing outside testing it has been real hard to find any place that will do an outside test from a private individual.

I am glad you have never had any issues with our stuff and I am happy to hear your friends like the products too.

Thanks
TMM
 
TheMuscleMan said:
I will go back through the threads and see bro. I don't recall it and nobody ever told us about it or we would have checked into it right away. The sust will crash in low temps so it could have been the time of year it was ordered. We try to make sure it wont crash but the cold times of the year make it difficult sometimes and some can crash in lower temps.

This anoboliv labs, I have never heard of but I will check them out. Ever since srcs stopped doing outside testing it has been real hard to find any place that will do an outside test from a private individual.

I am glad you have never had any issues with our stuff and I am happy to hear your friends like the products too.

Thanks
TMM
TheMuscleManhttps://anaboliclab.com/simec-swiss-lab-testing/

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I don't post much and I don't want to get in any bickering match with nobody but TMM shit is G2G!!! 90 % of everything I run is TMM. I have someone of his Cialis from 6 months ago and some of his dbol from 6 months ago as well. I can take two 25 mg caps and not even work out and I feel my watch on my wrist getting tighter. I have not been working out that much lately but I am getting back in the game. When I do everything will be TMM and I look great every summer so I never had a problem using any of his products but everybody reacts different. I'm sorry to hear about both of your your guy's ends. It sounds like both of you lost out, sorry to hear that.
Well here is some good news.......
I smell 420 coming.... 8)
 
I understand some peoples hesitation on speaking their thoughts on gear if their thoughts are bad/negative.

But in retrospect we are family and brothers here. And vendors are businessmen. You wouldn't let a family member go to a dealership and buy a lemon that you know is a lemon.

Some members don't have unlimited funds to just buy and buy gear that could be bunk or hazardous.

Also there's no member that wants to succumb to an infection by using dirty gear.

So to any member who feels their voice won't be heard or opinion/beliefs is voidable it isn't. Speak up, there's many members that will stand behind you.

As far as the current vendors they all seem great although there has been some hiccups along the road, which is expected in this game.

But on other smaller non-wise forums on the internet some backyard sources make gear out of their spare bathroom bathtub and that's cause for concern.
 
MattyIce said:
I dont give a fuck what you buy. I dont lie. I never did. You're talking about 2 difderent events. I did fall and break my back and both of my legs and had trauma to my head...has nothing to do with your vendor fucking me. And i dont pander to vendors. Now if you want to drop it..drop it. Or we can continue.
MattyIceYou were,asking for more gear from a,supplier you claimed FL gave you an abcess.

Come,on, seriously.

I don't even make money here ffs so I definitely don't pander. Your stories did not add up
 
T-bar said:
I DROPPED IT!!!! YOU keep bringing it back up! And you aren't stating facts you are stating opinion as facts and then demanding I drop it while allowing others to continue bashing me the way you are.

I DROPPED IT!
T-barActually I am not stating opinions only facts and trying to constantly get the last word is not dropping a thing
 
I also have not bashed you one time. Simply laid out the facts,as I know them. You wanted this,public...
 
Holy shit... I hope this is just the drugs dude.

You wanted this to stop yet you're the only one keeping it alive.

By the way, laying out the facts "as you know them" is pretty much the dictionary definition of opinion.
 
yet you continued to post :/

locking to get u to stop
 
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