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Maybe keep em light man, they are stressful. I usually just lower until I feel a good stretch in my lower back, and then back to the starting position. Do you feel you have a weakness im your lower back?TSizemore said:Leg day for me today.......got stiff leg deadlifts too. Damn those things hurt my back though...Tips?
Definitely! It knots up on leg day big time. Walking lunges seem to be the catalyst usually.N.O.V. said:Maybe keep em light man, they are stressful. I usually just lower until I feel a good stretch in my lower back, and then back to the starting position. Do you feel you have a weakness im your lower back?
I would say you need more lower back work. Throw immediate regular back raises, gms, reverse hypers, and light stiff legs.. sounds like your hamstrings probably over power your lower back. If there is any imbalance in the posterior chain, it'll show. Being that your hams are directly connected to your lower back, when you train them hard it literally creates tension, or pulls on your lumbar muscles causing a back pump. I've had this issue before, and bringing up size and strength in the lower back helped a lot. I used to get back pumps so bad training hams I wouldn't be able to finish my workout.TSizemore said:Definitely! It knots up on leg day big time. Walking lunges seem to be the catalyst usually.
That's exactly what it feels like......Back Pumps! If I do high volume deadlifts (like 20reps) it kills me. Good morning's are just brutal.N.O.V. said:I would say you need more lower back work. Throw immediate regular back raises, gms, reverse hypers, and light stiff legs.. sounds like your hamstrings probably over power your lower back. If there is any imbalance in the posterior chain, it'll show. Being that your hams are directly connected to your lower back, when you train them hard it literally creates tension, or pulls on your lumbar muscles causing a back pump. I've had this issue before, and bringing up size and strength in the lower back helped a lot. I used to get back pumps so bad training hams I wouldn't be able to finish my workout.
Ok little hijack here but on RDLs you need to make sure that the first move is your butt going backwards. Start with glutes tight and core straight and tight. Act like your sticking your ass out to moon someone with your legs only slightly bent to take pressure off the back of the knee, and drag the bar down your legs keeping in very close to the body. This keeps tension off the lower back and on the glutes and hams. Lower back will pump some, but perfect form lowers that. Raise up in the same fashion.TSizemore said:Leg day for me today.......got stiff leg deadlifts too. Damn those things hurt my back though...Tips?
^^^^^ this x100. Excellent explanation. Hard to teach someone, but once you got it its easy as pieRockShawn said:Ok little hijack here but on RDLs you need to make sure that the first move is your butt going backwards. Start with glutes tight and core straight and tight. Act like your sticking your ass out to moon someone with your legs only slightly bent to take pressure off the back of the knee, and drag the bar down your legs keeping in very close to the body. This keeps tension off the lower back and on the glutes and hams. Lower back will pump some, but perfect form lowers that. Raise up in the same fashion.
My .02 it works for me.
Good call Rock. Romanians can be used to relieve back tension as a substitute for stiff legged deads. They're nearly the same exercise, less the slight bend at the knee in rdls.RockShawn said:Ok little hijack here but on RDLs you need to make sure that the first move is your butt going backwards. Start with glutes tight and core straight and tight. Act like your sticking your ass out to moon someone with your legs only slightly bent to take pressure off the back of the knee, and drag the bar down your legs keeping in very close to the body. This keeps tension off the lower back and on the glutes and hams. Lower back will pump some, but perfect form lowers that. Raise up in the same fashion.
My .02 it works for me.
Pretty much the exact way I do them.......I've discovered that my issue is the back pump....I just seem to always get massive back pumps, hurt like a son of a bitch. Then they go away...RockShawn said:Ok little hijack here but on RDLs you need to make sure that the first move is your butt going backwards. Start with glutes tight and core straight and tight. Act like your sticking your ass out to moon someone with your legs only slightly bent to take pressure off the back of the knee, and drag the bar down your legs keeping in very close to the body. This keeps tension off the lower back and on the glutes and hams. Lower back will pump some, but perfect form lowers that. Raise up in the same fashion.
My .02 it works for me.
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