Not getting any gains. I'm not doing everything right but it's still frustrating

[jshredz]

Moved over to a new topic so I don't completely hijack the other thread started by Blue.

I'm still in my bulking season but recently I have been losing weight instead of gaining.
I went from almost 220lbs to about 211lbs in the last month. I have about 6-8 cheat meals per week and the rest of my meals aren't necessarily the cleanest but are home cooked.
What changes have occurred??
1. Job schedule got a lot more hectic, doing a lot more physical labor and alot of walking. 2. I'm taking HGH 3ius/day just bumped it up to 4iu also taking Slin novolinR 10ius preWO
3. Sleep schedule has changed
4. Long workouts wear me out and I have little energy left for work which means me exhausted the next morning and forces me to skip workout.
5. Eating timing are not consistent even though I try to pack on more calories.

My current cycle is 800mg test and 500mg deca per week. This is the highest dose of test I've ever taken and I know the gear is good.

Changes integrated going forward.
1. Increase Calories. Mainly carbs and fat
2. Shorter workouts. Making it to the gym at least 3 or 4 days per week is my priority. I need to get my consistency.
3. Getting my meals in on time even if the world is coming to an end. (This is the hard one)
4. Adjusting to my new am workout. (It takes me a while to adjust to morning workouts)

Ok I guess this is where I shut up and get some back from others.

 

[jshredz]

Hey Shredz, are you wanting us to help evaluate or was this just an example and you have everything worked out. Reason I'm asking is cause It would make a good New Thread so we can keep all the info you need directed at you. If you want, Just copy and paste this post in a new thread brother. Thanks for sharing your situation. I really consider you one of the best competitors here and It's always good to get your perspective and your input.

AS far as what I see in your situation, I think you have a good handle on what is causing the extra calorie expenditure and we all know stress is detrimental to BodyBuilding. Morning workouts are tough, Have you increased pre workout carbs or even tried getting some early AM carbs in like 2AM. I usually gotta pee all through the night so, 2AM hit the poptarts and then you're that much ahead when you wake up. Most guys drop the caffeine and stims in bulk too, but these might be useful in your situation. hGH is gonna make you sleepy, especially toward the end of the day.

I'm not getting home until midnight or later on most nights. Waking up between 7:30~8am and eat oatmeal and eggs when I wake. Take my preworkout about an hour later with some Karbokyn (I need the caffeine kick). I'm also drinking about 150 grams of carbs with BCAA intra workout. Followed by a carb protein meal (shake or solid depending on time restrictions) flowed by another meal 1 to 1.5 hrs later. I try to eat at least every 3.5 hrs after that. Every meal has carb, protein and fat.
Yes I notice the Gh has made me a little lazy.

 

[RockShawn]

I'm not getting home until midnight or later on most nights. Waking up between 7:30~8am and eat oatmeal and eggs when I wake. Take my preworkout about an hour later with some Karbokyn (I need the caffeine kick). I'm also drinking about 150 grams of carbs with BCAA intra workout. Followed by a carb protein meal (shake or solid depending on time restrictions) flowed by another meal 1 to 1.5 hrs later. I try to eat at least every 3.5 hrs after that. Every meal has carb, protein and fat.
Yes I notice the Gh has made me a little lazy.

Man I would have to think you are just getting leaner or letting water weight go then. There is nothing I see that would be muscle wasting. Liver support and thyroid are variables also. Are you using t4 with the hGH? Do you take BCAA's any other time besides workout? Especially Luecine.

 

[Eman]

Man I would have to think you are just getting leaner or letting water weight go then. There is nothing I see that would be muscle wasting. Liver support and thyroid are variables also. Are you using t4 with the hGH? Do you take BCAA's any other time besides workout? Especially Luecine.

Im also going to go with Rock on this one. With your new labor intensive job it really makes a big difference. in the winter when Im not working hardly at all I can pack on the pounds but when summer rolls around and hit 60+ hours a week I always drop weight and most of it is just leaning out because im not sitting on the couch burning hardly any of my calories im taking in. Dont sweat it man. Your body will adapt to your new schedule give it time.

 

[jshredz]

I'm thinking your right eman. My body goes into havoc with a new schedule. Similar thing happen last year.
Hey Rock def no T3 bro. I don't mess with that shit. Don't think is beneficial for me at all given my body type.
My pre has BCAA also other than that just whatever BCAA I get with my protein.
I'm def not obese look a little watery due to the gh but def not too bad. I'll try to get some pics up this weekend

 

[RockShawn]

I'm thinking your right eman. My body goes into havoc with a new schedule. Similar thing happen last year.
Hey Rock def no T3 bro. I don't mess with that shit. Don't think is beneficial for me at all given my body type.
My pre has BCAA also other than that just whatever BCAA I get with my protein.
I'm def not obese look a little watery due to the gh but def not too bad. I'll try to get some pics up this weekend

Was thinking more of needing t4 with the gh because of the rapid upregulation of natty t4 to t3 with hGH.

 

[HARD AT IT]

I know you know your shit bro.... Homegrown is a master at this stuff as well... Maybe shoot him a PM or email and see what he can get going for you...

 

[jshredz]

Was thinking more of needing t4 with the gh because of the rapid upregulation of natty t4 to t3 with hGH.

And there goes one of the reasons to make threads like this.. I didn't even think of that Rock

 

[Gunner16]

I was going to say what Rock said about letting go of some water weight which could be the case. Also stress is a big cause of weight loss even if your taking in calories. Do you take stimulates and how if you do have you taken break?

 

[RockShawn]

And there goes one of the reasons to make threads like this.. I didn't even think of that Rock

Well not saying that is the cure all here but it's something I forget a lot too.

 

[jshredz]

I know you know your shit bro.... Homegrown is a master at this stuff as well... Maybe shoot him a PM or email and see what he can get going for you...

Might have to shoot him a pm

 

[jshredz]

I was going to say what Rock said about letting go of some water weight which could be the case. Also stress is a big cause of weight loss even if your taking in calories. Do you take stimulates and how if you do have you taken break?

Stims.. Just whatever is in my preWO. so only 4x week

 

[BIGBOSS]

Those life changes could definintly have an impact sometimes.

 

[jshredz]

So weight has stabilized at 212lbs Right now no matter what I eat. Def need to clean up the diet a bit just for health reasons. I haven't loss much strength except in my legs which have gotten smaller probably due to me being on my feet and walking 95% of the time I'm at work.
Holding a bit of water. Now I'm def not the leanest but I wouldn't call myself fat.
I'll post pics I took later from yesterday. Also I'm gonna dig up some photos from last year to compare.

 

[JM750]

JS., fo sure post up some pics bro.

 

[jshredz]

JS., fo sure post up some pics bro.

I'll post these pics from yesterday for now. Tomorrow I'll post up pictures from early last year to compare side by side. This should give me a good idea of where I am compare to last year.

Now these pics are unpumped and are taken early in the morning so my muscles are flat.

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[krustus]

good grief bro... you look incredible. that's offseason bodyfat? ...lol jeesh.

i got no real advice on you getting the gains you seek... except that sure seems real lean for a man putting on size? but you are much more of an expert than me bro... so do what you know because whatever it is is working like hell.

 

[Wacker]

I'll post these pics from yesterday for now. Tomorrow I'll post up pictures from early last year to compare side by side. This should give me a good idea of where I am compare to last year.

Now these pics are unpumped and are taken early in the morning so my muscles are flat.

Wow! One can only hope to look like that!!!!!

 

[JM750]

OMG... you look terrible! LOL

 

[jshredz]

good grief bro... you look incredible. that's offseason bodyfat? ...lol jeesh.

i got no real advice on you getting the gains you seek... except that sure seems real lean for a man putting on size? but you are much more of an expert than me bro... so do what you know because whatever it is is working like hell.

Thanks krustus. The problem is that I was making gains but my weight has started to drop. My daily schedule has gotten a bit out of wack lately so I believe that's a major culprit to my stagnant gains.

Wow! One can only hope to look like that!!!!!

Thanks bro.